Interesting debate about Pitts … (haven’t seen highlights yet) but my other team (sharks) have stared using Wade Graham as edge forward at the start of the game then using him as a middle from the first or second interchange… and it works well


Good win btw… nice surprise to wake up to!

Talking to the guys at the match with me and we were talking about whats changed to get us the wins.
Personally I think Poaching called it a few weeks ago.
He said we weren't far off and training was good but that we were losing our focus as soon as the game went against us. Which meant we were throwing silly passes and jumping out of the line and straying from the game plan.
That's exactly why we won today. We bombed plenty of opportunities but stuck at it and came home strong.

Maybe but for me we won one against Hull that we were lucky to win and that gives a team confidence.

We were far better today than last week because we seemed to play with real confidence. We looked up for this game from start to finish.

Coaches need to be lucky as do players at times and Pochings came last week when Gale fluffed two drop goals that normally he’d get with ease. Don’t think luck played much of a part this week, self belief did.

Surely you didn't expect any thing else.


Think next years derby's are safe now.

Long long way to go to being a centre of Tupou or lynne’s quality in both attack and defence , two well taken tries ,but old man Widdop breezed passed him for his try

True and I’m not suggesting Batch move there full time. However in the modern game versatility is vital for all players but especially players at clubs like ours.

To be able to play S/R and LF is handy but to be able to move to centre if needed is hugely valuable. Basically you have a forward and a back in one player in your 17. Rarely do teams have the luxury of a centre on the bench.

So to me that’s added greatly to his value.

Very much so

I really hope Batch stays, he's one of our own.

To come back so many times during a game and then snatch a winner shows true character

Well done wakefield

That's a very applaudable remark.
I'm puzzled by Warrington's situation - I know we were up for it yesterday and your comments are accurate, but to have so much talent in your team and being where you are makes no sense.

His team do have so much talent, and are at the top of the league.

I don't really believe in luck in sport. Hard work gets you opportunities. Some you take some you don't.

Gary Player: “the more I practice the luckier I get”. Pretty decent quote.

I'm afraid it is not, it comes from wum who supports stains and is constantly changing his user name to hide this and like you say it makes no sense that part is true as its totally out of his character to even make that comment

Really.

Well you're at odds with most coaches, not least Alex Ferguson, who clearly states in his Autobiograpy that luck played a huge role in his success.

There is no such thing as luck. There is no mythical power making Gale miss a kick.
It is simply the culmination of a lot of events that arrive at a conclusion you like.
I'm sure Alex Ferguson knows that too.....which is why he works so hard on details others don't to be successful.

I was a bit concerned after the first 15 minutes having had so much possession with nothing on the scoreboard. Only because I have witnessed it so many times before. All credit to the team for hanging in there though, great to see.

Even for you that's bizarre. Of course there is such a thing as luck, it's just another word for chance or good fortune or are you saying they don't exist?

What doesn't exist is ways to create luck such as lucky omens and superstitions, I'll give you that, but luck as a concept is totally real. If luck doesn't exist please explain lottery winners. It may be random chance but you're still chuffin lucky

It's not bizarre just because you don't understand.

You've answered your own point.
You can feel lucky but it isn't something that happens.

You can feel lucky that you roll 2 sixes at dice games but in reality it was always going to be 2 sixes, you just didn't know. Its because of the way you picked them up and the force you put on them in the throw and the way you turned your hand. Not caused by luck.

Luck is just a way of describing something that is beneficial to you that you didn't know was going to happen....but was going to happen regardless.