If Max has gone low wouldn’t Turner have just flopped over for a try wouldnt he? The only option was to go high and wrap the ball but Turner always had the advantage charging forwards. And Max couldn’t get enough on him though almost delayed him enough.

The damage was done when Matauitia ran through the middle of our forwards for a clean break.

Matautia was the difference last night.

How come it's pick on M J week .ok he had a bad match, but overall he as had a good season .Lino had a poor match last night so is he no good at scrum half . There was no reason for Kershaw to come of is wing for Cas second try just let's pick on some one .Face the facts, Cas are a good side ,well coach They did not get a overlap all night, some thing Wires could not stop in the cup .We did do some things well but as a TEAM we got some things wrong .To start blaming one player is out of order ,we lost by SIX NOT SIXTY

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Every chance that would be the result, but we'll never know. I'm certainly not criticising him for it, he made the decision he did in a split second, had he pulled it off it would've been a great try saving tackle. Again not the reason we lost.

I’d add mcshane and Richardson as being the difference also but led from the front by mata’utia, and obviously Cas wanting the game more than we did .

McShane saved Castlefords bacon last few minutes. Lino threw one of the best inside balls I’ve seen in a long time to Pitts after drawing 2/3 players lateral to open it up. But for McShane busying a gut to knock it dead we would have been level with not long remaining.

Max had a shocker for sure but when on song, he's so important to our attacking line.

Our problem is our pack........a good 5 or 6 years together and it's beginning to take it's toll on the body.

We really do need a quality hooker & some fresh forwards (and not second rowers!)

Despite getting beaten by Cas (again), there was very little in the game last night.
Ultimately, we made more mistakes than they did and backed many of those errors up with penalties/resets.

Yes, we are awful on last tackle plays and there is more structure in a sandcastle than our attack in the opposition 20 but, it was the number of mistakes in possession that cost us the game. Ball strips, desperate offloads, crossing etc, etc.
How much possession did we gift to Cas and how many times did we make a balls up with ball in hand and it was still a 6 point game.
Defensively, we're not too far off but, with ball in hand, there is a lot of improving to do (understatement).

Also if we cant challenge for an attacking kick, we may as well go for touch and set our defensive line.

I see all the perfect people are back slagging off and bagging players, its a team game you win and lose together individual mistakes contribute but do not cost the game last night.

Nobody will be a harsher critic than Max himself I’m sure. Yes he did some poor stuff but genuinely I’ve never seen him have an off game, he’s consistently a very good player for us. Jowitt as a player is the least of our problems in terms of quality.

I'm disappointed with the loss but at least the 'perfect people' on RLFans have got chance to say something. It was really quiet while we were winning.

Couldn’t have put it better. Getting pinged twice in possession is criminal, the crossing errors & ball steals etc jeez. CC says he likes the players to play what’s in front of them, but for me that’s great when you’ve got world class players but Trinity, well it would be nice to see some signs of coaching & a game plan!

He's been in the squad for 5 yrs.
Has he [iactually[/i played at FB for all that time?

Played 80 first team games now and turned 24 years old. He’s not an inexperienced kid anymore. He needs to make the most of his runs in the team like this, i’ll back him to bounce back next week.

A club like Wakefield need versatility from players to make the budget go further.
Max fits into that category, plus who knows what his contract is?
Would it be on a par with Hampshire?
Who would you have for the money?

He's been one our better and most consistent players so far this season.
I dont get why so many people are so bloody short sighted.

He was phenomenal against Leigh 2 weeks ago and certainly helped us win that game but, now, some have him down as public enemy number 1 and question whether he should be in the side. It's ridiculous.

if you look at our results and above all performances over the last two years they have not been great. It’s created bad feeling amongst the fans and every single player as been heavily criticised in this period, fafita, Miller, rocky, crowther and TJ was slagged off for getting injured and called chocolate the other month. At the moment I think the players are much better thought of if they are not playing cause as soon as they return it’s open season and someone to blame. The saying is your only as good as your last game and if you set your own standards and fall well below them then questions will be asked m.

Top post fully agree some of our 'fans' or so called fans are a disgrace the bagging and blaming is poisonous at times.

100% agree support the team stop knocking them at every opportunity. Some keep saying we don't have a clue in the opposition's half and should score more. Unfortunately it's not that easy Couple of weeks ago we were beaten by Warrington but we managed to score 18 points against a team of so called superstars. Last night a very strong St. Helens side couldn't muster anything bar one goal. In perspective that makes our attack not as bad as some think it is..

I agree about not bagging players but, on our attack, it's absolutely woeful.
When we get to the last play, our kicks are very, very poor and there is nothing getting set up.

Westerman seems to be the organiser in the side rather than either of the halves.

Most other sides have a plan for when they reach tackle 5 or 6 and try to execute a particular play.
I dont see this with Trinity, not even close.

in the Hull kr and hudds games we seemed to change our style of play to one that suited us, not the typical round back with every play, we played with much more freedom then in the Leigh game and onwards it’s back to the same old stuff. If you look at millers first try a long pass from dummy half and he’s in, the gaps are bigger on the outside and always have been and toupo caused some real damage with decent ball.

We played different against Huddersfield and Hull KR because we had more time at play the ball to shift it out wide, against Cas we where getting tackled as soon as the first man received the ball. Castleford had the luxury of playing on top of us without being given offside where as Wakefield seemed to playing to different rules.

What’s really grating is that Cas weren’t brilliant at all - in fact, it was almost like watching two 2020 Wakefield’s. Had we some actual attacking structure and Ashurst managed to keep hold of the ball we would’ve won that.

Thing the thing that got to me about C as was the time they were taking in the tackle .The ref was letting them get away with it, also been offside at play the ball .But think that was down also to us been very flat at play the ball .Think this is the main problem with our attack

He never has, that's not his game, yet I bet you used to like him.

I'm not saying that I don't like him



To us keyboard coaches, all players have their faults



For me, the exception being Bill Ashurst!