Most of his moves have been Clubs cashing in on the last year of his contract and Clubs offerings fees for him.

ATEOTD if his attitude isn't right he won't play, it's not as if we're short in the back row. The days of clubs offering 150 grand for his move are gone and at nearly 30 this could be his last decent contract, so it's up to him.

Well, you've proved my point with your silly opening jibe, for a moderator that's poor, conversation over

Happy with this, good player.

Its a shame he never properly kicked on, he looked like the next Sculthorpe when he broke through.

No conner doesn't show passion he shows a completely childish attitude in winding players up rather than concentrate on the game, this was evident in the last game where he got sin binned

Maybe he's had enough of radford, maybe there is unrest in the hull camp as all season you blow hot and cold

Connor has had enough and doesn't want to play at Hull

Don't really understand why Dave K is copping flak. I think he's made some valid points and I cannot disagree with there being a question mark on Westerman's attitude as there has always been so to my knowledge. He is however a good quality rugby league player and I'm happy with the signing. I think he will imrove our team overall. I also think he does look like he's put some timber on.

I guess we'll see when he gets here.
We've done well with players who didn't show the right attitude at previous clubs.

We have others so he is not guaranteed to play.
But I like what he potentially can do for us so let's see whether Chester can develop it.

For me it’s more the case that this is his standard response to every player who leaves Hull despite his denying it.

As for Westermans attitude, he’s played a lot of games for a player with a bad attitude. In my experience players with a truly bad attitude as opposed to those who have a personality and a life outside the game don’t last as long as this lad. Just a thought.

You and Snowie took a shot at him first. You can't complain when he takes a shot back.
Just leave it alone now before I have to lock another perfectly normal thread.
This is about Westerman.

Looking forward to seeing him play for us - hope he stays injury free......


and maybe he will fit in well at Wakefield as many others have who couldn't make their mark or fit in elsewhere........

I'm not a moderator.

Still waiting for examples, I've given you plenty of players who I've given credit to when they have left Hull.

in fact I think I've given a fairly balanced view of Westerman, saying he is a good player.

Finally (along with a couple of others) can see what I'm saying and doesn't resort to to calling me petty and talking about Connor (which I'm n sure has to do with this)

Agreed on other points,

What did raise my eyebrow a bit was when he was asked about looking forward to pre season training and he seemed to brush over the subject not the usual “can’t wait to rip into it “or words to that affect .likes been said a quality player who will only enhance our on field capability if his attitude and fitness are right .

I think we should all try to allow players who sign for Trinity, to start with a clean slate. To me, it doesn’t matter what reputation they have at previous clubs, it’s how they preform in a Trinity shirt. Give them a chance and we judge them as a Trinity player, not on previous reputations.

Shame you don’t defend me and a few Trinity fans with the same gusto, but hey we move on.

My missus always gives me a load of stick when we sign someone who I've slagged off prior to signature because all of a sudden I love 'em.

Broughy being a good recent example.

There are some players out there who would take some acceptance though. Hardaker being a good example. Would never want us to take Greg Johnsone back.

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Agree. Let's see how he goes. Will have my full support in the RW and B.

Agreed.
I think most players should be given the chance to prove themselves in Trinity colours, however there are some I would take exception to. These are definitely two of them.

LOL. You'd be surprised.

I think I'm on the same page.
The only one I think I got wrong was Cockayne. I absolutely thought that was a bad move but we turned him around in a big way.

Not having a dig but back on topic.

The more I look at this signing the better it looks.

I had the impression Westerman was a bit of a loose cannon off the pitch, yet other than hearsay I see little real evidence unless I've missed some court case or similar?

He's actually only 29 will be 30 at the start of the season, probably past his very best but hardly past it as I thought he was.

He's also very versatile which tends to negate the age issue.

Also, he's not had that many clubs, the vast majority of his games at Cas and especially Hull, only Toronto stands out as a real oddity. So he must be a reasonably easy player to manage.

His stats are,

SL games - 320
Tries - 95
Points - 849

At first glance, not to be sniffed at. It's taken the best part of 11 years to finally get the lad and I'm fully accepting that it could all go horribly wrong but then that applies to most signings but I'm beginning to like this signing. At the end of the day we have the cover in those positions should it go bums up.

From an `off the pitch` perspective - He has settled down a lot recently, helped by the fact he has become a dad, yes he enjoys a quite beer in his local but nowhere near the heights of the past.

You should wait for the "mad monday" story to come out.

That applies to most of us, just getting there myself

Hulls or ours?

Do tell.