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| It's a decent squad considering it's cobbled together nature - but it feels like an uphill struggle without the main playmakers *and* finishers available.
I think we can match them up the middle - but our backs and 3/4's are going to be hard pressed. Never feel confident going into a Cas game - they've got the hoodoo over us good and proper.
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| Quote ="bren2k"It's a decent squad considering it's cobbled together nature - but it feels like an uphill struggle without the main playmakers *and* finishers available.
I think we can match them up the middle - but our backs and 3/4's are going to be hard pressed. Never feel confident going into a Cas game - they've got the hoodoo over us good and proper.'"
Cas have been cobbled together for most of the season themselves and despite an excellent start to the season, they to are desperately short in the halves and at 9. I agree that they have an excellent 3/4 but, as has been the case recently, they are beatable and I agree that had we had Brough and Miller, we should have really fancied this one.
Brough will be a HUGE miss but, lets see what happens.
The bookies are giving us 10 start on the coupon but, lets hope it's a tighter game than that.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Cas have been cobbled together for most of the season themselves and despite an excellent start to the season, they to are desperately short in the halves and at 9. I agree that they have an excellent 3/4 but, as has been the case recently, they are beatable and I agree that had we had Brough and Miller, we should have really fancied this one.
Brough will be a HUGE miss but, lets see what happens.
The bookies are giving us 10 start on the coupon but, lets hope it's a tighter game than that.'"
I’m not sure Brough is a huge miss. Him and Miller first choice no doubt but Hampshire and Reynolds are no mugs.
Most wanted Hampshire over Brough at the start of the season anyway so not such a huge loss as Hampshire was playing well at HB.
As for Reynolds we shouldn’t have signed him if we didn’t think he could do it. He’s no novice, think he played 30+ SL games for Leigh and scored a fair few from HB and whenever I saw him play he looked one of their better players.
Finally him and Hampshire played together in that Leigh team though I don’t know if they were ever HB partners. All the same they aren’t strangers.
I reckon they might surprise a few as Reynolds is a good kicker. Hope so anyway.
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| Do we really fear their three quarters that much?
Do we think Minikin and Clare are much better than Arundel and MCB? On the other side Shenton and Eden...brilliant two seasons ago playing off Gale and Hardaker...is Lyne & BJB not a better pairing at present? I think collectively we edge it in the three quarters and I think our forwards could come out on top if the big minutes against Wigan haven’t left a mark...
It’s then down to the pivots...Gale and McShane are huge misses for them, bigger than ours IMO...
I think with all the positivity around the place at present we can go there and get this monkey off our back!
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| Quote ="upthecats"Do we really fear their three quarters that much?
Do we think Minikin and Clare are much better than Arundel and MCB? On the other side Shenton and Eden...brilliant two seasons ago playing off Gale and Hardaker...is Lyne & BJB not a better pairing at present? I think collectively we edge it in the three quarters and I think our forwards could come out on top if the big minutes against Wigan haven’t left a mark...
It’s then down to the pivots...Gale and McShane are huge misses for them, bigger than ours IMO...
I think with all the positivity around the place at present we can go there and get this monkey off our back!'"
It's amazing what happens when some logic is applied to a situation!
Totally agree with you although before reading your post I was thinking that we will struggle against cas
Yes our outside backs are fairly evenly matched you are right, specially now we have mcb
We have them in the forwards for me. Plus we have Dave!
Cas like us have a very good full back playing in the halfs
No one has seen Renoylds play for us yet but I agree with the early poster he's no kid and should know his roll
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woody playing where as mcshane will not play for cas at hooker
Plus we can field a strong bench
This is going to be a very even match
A lot will depend on rocky and renoylds play and our kicking game
I'm going with wakey by 4
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| Personally I would have liked BJB to play full back & put young kershaw on the wing then at least we have a player who can tackle at FB & a good tackler in the wing, Controversial I know but we need to know we're covered in those areas
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| Full back play has changed since BJB played there.
His kick return is second to none but his link in the line which our game plan really needs would need to be relearned so I'd stick with Max.
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| Quote ="Little willy"Personally I would have liked BJB to play full back & put young kershaw on the wing then at least we have a player who can tackle at FB & a good tackler in the wing, Controversial I know but we need to know we're covered in those areas'"
BJB plated FB for us a few years back and it went badly IMO. Max is a better FB and BJB is a really good winger and thats how I think it should stay. Kershaw will get his chance but not over Easter, it could break the kid.
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| Quote ="PopTart"MCB not being in the squad could change but I'd be ok with Lyne on the wing with Horo inside him.'"
I actually liked the Horo BJB combination for their defensive efforts last week. Even though it was an enforced move I thought they worked pretty well together
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| To me its not too much about the teams as I see them pretty even, its more around A) How clinical we are when in an attacking position B) Playing that 80m pitch as good if not better than Cas C) Mindset of players knowing we haven't beat them in 5yrs!!
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| Quote ="Yosemite Sam"=#FF0000I actually liked the Horo BJB combination for their defensive efforts last week. Even though it was an enforced move I thought they worked pretty well together'"
With MCB in the squad it makes it a little easier.
Agree re the Porn Star at the side of BJB last week, the only slight issue for me is if he played at centre, could he do the full 80?
I say that as i think the bench will be full of forwards!
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"With MCB in the squad it makes it a little easier.
Agree re the Porn Star at the side of BJB last week, the only slight issue for me is if he played at centre, could he do the full 80?
I say that as i think the bench will be full of forwards!'"
If MCB plays I agree. Love the Porn start tag for horo
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"I’m not sure Brough is a huge miss. Him and Miller first choice no doubt but Hampshire and Reynolds are no mugs.
Most wanted Hampshire over Brough at the start of the season anyway so not such a huge loss as Hampshire was playing well at HB.
As for Reynolds we shouldn’t have signed him if we didn’t think he could do it. He’s no novice, think he played 30+ SL games for Leigh and scored a fair few from HB and whenever I saw him play he looked one of their better players.
Finally him and Hampshire played together in that Leigh team though I don’t know if they were ever HB partners. All the same they aren’t strangers.
I reckon they might surprise a few as Reynolds is a good kicker. Hope so anyway.
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Sorry to disappoint you about Reynolds. Yes , he is a very good goal kicker, but his tactical kicking from the hand was very poor, while his lack of pace meant he could never take on the defence. So I do not know what matches you saw him shine in, all I can remember is him kicking 9 goals and a try when we put 50 past a virtual Wigan A team. Most Leigh fans were up in arms because he was always preferred in stead of Raidyard by the then coach Jukes. As for Hampshire, he was also very disappointing but was played mainly at full back, but I do admit he has been very impressive when playing for Wakefield.
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| Quote ="CHEADLE LEYTHER"Sorry to disappoint you about Reynolds. Yes , he is a very good goal kicker, but his tactical kicking from the hand was very poor, while his lack of pace meant he could never take on the defence. So I do not know what matches you saw him shine in, all I can remember is him kicking 9 goals and a try when we put 50 past a virtual Wigan A team. Most Leigh fans were up in arms because he was always preferred in stead of Raidyard by the then coach Jukes. As for Hampshire, he was also very disappointing but was played mainly at full back, but I do admit he has been very impressive when playing for Wakefield.'"
If his distribution is ok and he guide us round the park and kick some goals, that will be just fine.
There is enough pace in the squad elsewhere with BJB, Lyne, Caton Brown, Hampshire and Fifita, assuming you saw his break last week .
With Brough and Miller missing, it's distribution and kicking duties that need to be filed.
IIRC, he played in 2 pre season games and he certainly went ok and if I'm honest, I'm not sure how he's got on while at Fev but, let's see how he goes.
There's plenty of experience around him so, hopefully he'll grab his chance with both hands.
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| Quote ="CHEADLE LEYTHER"Sorry to disappoint you about Reynolds. Yes , he is a very good goal kicker, but his tactical kicking from the hand was very poor, while his lack of pace meant he could never take on the defence. So I do not know what matches you saw him shine in, all I can remember is him kicking 9 goals and a try when we put 50 past a virtual Wigan A team. Most Leigh fans were up in arms because he was always preferred in stead of Raidyard by the then coach Jukes. As for Hampshire, he was also very disappointing but was played mainly at full back, but I do admit he has been very impressive when playing for Wakefield.'"
He made 76 appearances for you and scored 23 tries for you according to Wiki. Think you’re being a touch blinkered as assuming those stats are true they are pretty good by any standards! I accept that a lot of that would have been in the championship but all the same.
Against us obviously ripped us apart in one game, that’s where I first noticed him. No offence but I rarely take much note of fans who go out of their way to slag off a former player though I accept your point of view.
All the same I’ll judge him on what he does for us as every player we have ever signed was rubbish apparently and that includes Fifita and especially Lyne.
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| sorry guys Horo will get to be made look silly in the centres straight out to slow.
I think we should preserve and go for the win Monday but that is just me probably
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| Horo was an on the run patch up, and shouldn’t be considered a starting centre. He was at fault for 2 of Wigan’s late try’s by shooting out. He’s a very capable back rower and needs to be kept there. Nothing to fear at Cas or Leeds. We have the team to take 2 points off them both.
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| If nothing else I'm praying to the rugby gods for no more injuries.
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| Quote ="upthecats"Do we really fear their three quarters that much?
Do we think Minikin and Clare are much better than Arundel and MCB? On the other side Shenton and Eden...brilliant two seasons ago playing off Gale and Hardaker...is Lyne & BJB not a better pairing at present? I think collectively we edge it in the three quarters and I think our forwards could come out on top if the big minutes against Wigan haven’t left a mark...
It’s then down to the pivots...Gale and McShane are huge misses for them, bigger than ours IMO...
I think with all the positivity around the place at present we can go there and get this monkey off our back![/quot
Minikin and Clare are no better than Arundel and MCB.
Shenton is no better than Lyne and as for Eden if he was at a club without a good centre, he would be ordinary.
He does score some good tries, no doubt about that, but he drops some clangers as well.
IF we play as we can, we have a good chance.
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| Slightly off on a tangent, anybody else notice that PP is no longer wearing the strapping. After an injury dominated few weeks that has to be a positive.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Slightly off on a tangent, anybody else notice that PP is no longer wearing the strapping. After an injury dominated few weeks that has to be a positive.
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"
I think Shenton is a quality centre and Eden is pretty damn quick, certainly a match for Lyne & Bishop.
Having said that, Arundel, with MCB outside him look a little better than the other side.
It's a huge ask to expect too much though with a new, 1, 6 & 7 playing together for the first time.
You would expect some of the timings to be out.
With our pack playing so well, we should go for a tight, simple game plan and try and batter them into submission.
If we try and play too open, we will very likely come unstuck.
Hopefully Rocky will still be familiar with the pitch over there and have a cracker.##Come on Trin !
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| Although we are having a hard time with injuries Cas are not too far behind us in that respect, quality wise tonight I don’t think we are too far apart so hoping for a good game. Reynolds been playing very well at Fev, looking forward to seeing what he can do and can’t be much worse than his opposite number tonight in Aston who looks very ordinary at championship level.
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| Quote ="BOJ042"sorry guys Horo will get to be made look silly in the centres straight out to slow.
I think we should preserve and go for the win Monday but that is just me probably'"
He didnt look "silly" against the pie eaters....
Yeah, it is.
As usual.
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| Quote ="BOJ042"sorry guys Horo will get to be made look silly in the centres straight out to slow.
I think we should preserve and go for the win Monday but that is just me probably'"
Will Leeds make their home match against Huddersfield or away to Wakefield a priority? That is, IF they have a priority. I can't quite see them playing their second team on Friday to preserve the players for Monday!
I doubt that it will make much difference, but Leeds have an even smaller turn round time between matches than Wakefield do. I've seen in the past what disaster my football team have suffered when more concern is given to one match rather than another.
I'm hoping for two victories each this weekend for Wakefield & Queens Park Rangers. Certainly going into Monday with that still a possibility would be great!
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