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| Quote ="vastman"You'er not having a debate with me and who said you had to prove anything, you're welcome to your opinion and you may well be right - but for me he didn't really do it, just a gut feeling don't need a spread sheets.The only person I took umbrage with was Cosmical and his OTT praise of a player who IMHO was not the 'saviour' of the club or 'Captain Marvel' or 'deserves a knighthood', sorry but that's idiotic as no one person ever in the history of W.T.RLFC deserves those title. I'll give you Captain Marvel at a pinch but we've had a few of those'
As I've stated he was a very good signing and if we could have him at Centre now I'd bite your hand off but I happen to think Solomona in particular was more important and Brough because he was hugely gifted and we created him. I am entitled to an opinion it is a forum and it's not as if I don't get shot down often enough for expressing them.
As for likability that's a bit subjective seeing as many of us never met him and I can't imagine him being dumb enough to be anything but polite to fans etc.
One things for sure he evokes much emotion in some - I'll mark it on my very long list of things I shouldn't express on here for fear of upsetting people.
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| Never heard any Wakefield fan who didn't rate JD , imo legendary status is required for him ,oh sorry...... theres one ?
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| Quote ="vastman"If its from 2006 then in terms of pure talent which is what matters to me (so long as it comes with effort) then Danny Brough blows them all away, pre 2006 Solomona who is the best players I've seen at the club. He turned the club around in 2004 and gave us credibility for the first time since entering SL - he was after all a current NZ International - Ditto Henry Paul but it was a very short stint.'"
Really - Danny Brough - How did we make him ? He started as a junior having signed at 15 from Thornhill, played for our academy , never played in first team and signed for dews bury , after that he played for york hull castle ford and after his 2 year stint at trinity went to Huddersfield in 2010. If I remember he actually left with a year left to run on his contract.
So even if you include his academy days he played 12 years for other clubs and all his formative senior years at other teams. Thats before we even start on his well documented problems off the field.
A club legend isnt just about a few big games over a couple of seasons , he actually played for wakefield about 50 or 60 times
If you want to list what a club legend should be
Loyalty ?
Long serving ?
Likeable ? Matter of opinion
Leader on and off the field
Record or high point scoring career at the club ?
Enduring affection for the club
Contrast this to JD - 6 years at the club, played in 188 games, stayed when financially he would have been better served to move on, universally liked and respected (unless you are a miserable git) club captain, who still shows a continuing interest in the wildcats
I ve been watching for over 40 years and last 15 of them potential legends have been few and far between but Neil Fox, Johnny Thompson, nigel bell, probably in the modern era Garerth ellis , who was a junior that came good at the club.
Danny Brough really ?
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| Brough Left in March and his contract was up at the end of that season and we sold him for an undisclosed fee. If you remember it was due to that deal we got Kirkmond on Loan at the time and Korkidas signed permanently.
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"Really - Danny Brough - How did we make him ? He started as a junior having signed at 15 from Thornhill, played for our academy , never played in first team and signed for dews bury , after that he played for york hull castle ford and after his 2 year stint at trinity went to Huddersfield in 2010. If I remember he actually left with a year left to run on his contract.
So even if you include his academy days he played 12 years for other clubs and all his formative senior years at other teams. Thats before we even start on his well documented problems off the field.
A club legend isnt just about a few big games over a couple of seasons , he actually played for wakefield about 50 or 60 times
If you want to list what a club legend should be
Loyalty ?
Long serving ?
Likeable ? Matter of opinion
Leader on and off the field
Record or high point scoring career at the club ?
Enduring affection for the club
Contrast this to JD - 6 years at the club, played in 188 games, stayed when financially he would have been better served to move on, universally liked and respected (unless you are a miserable git) club captain, who still shows a continuing interest in the wildcats
I ve been watching for over 40 years and last 15 of them potential legends have been few and far between but Neil Fox, Johnny Thompson, nigel bell, probably in the modern era Garerth ellis , who was a junior that came good at the club.
Danny Brough really ?'"
Can't believe you(and others) haven't mentioned Toppo in any legends list!
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Brough Left in March and his contract was up at the end of that season and we sold him for an undisclosed fee. If you remember it was due to that deal we got Kirkmond on Loan at the time and Korkidas signed permanently.'"
I'm sure I read somewhere that we got £30k for him. Even still it didn't keep the club afloat for long.
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| Quote ="wildshot"I'm sure I read somewhere that we got £30k for him. Even still it didn't keep the club afloat for long.'"
It was around £30k, but what that doesn't tell you is how keen he was to go - for some reason he seemed to require a cash injection!
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| That period just reminds me of all the positivity going in to that year off finishing 5th in 2009.Then signing Tronc and Newton and then suddenly it all started to go tits up for us in one way or the other.
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"Really - Danny Brough - How did we make him ? He started as a junior having signed at 15 from Thornhill, played for our academy , never played in first team and signed for dews bury , after that he played for york hull castle ford and after his 2 year stint at trinity went to Huddersfield in 2010. If I remember he actually left with a year left to run on his contract.
So even if you include his academy days he played 12 years for other clubs and all his formative senior years at other teams. Thats before we even start on his well documented problems off the field.
A club legend isnt just about a few big games over a couple of seasons , he actually played for wakefield about 50 or 60 times
If you want to list what a club legend should be
Loyalty ?
Long serving ?
Likeable ? Matter of opinion
Leader on and off the field
Record or high point scoring career at the club ?
Enduring affection for the club
Contrast this to JD - 6 years at the club, played in 188 games, stayed when financially he would have been better served to move on, universally liked and respected (unless you are a miserable git) club captain, who still shows a continuing interest in the wildcats
I ve been watching for over 40 years and last 15 of them potential legends have been few and far between but Neil Fox, Johnny Thompson, nigel bell, probably in the modern era Garerth ellis , who was a junior that came good at the club.
Danny Brough really ?'"
What in gods sorry JDs name are you on about - get over yourself
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| So whatever name you want to give him, I've never met anyone who doesn't respect JD for what he did for the club.
If you want to be picky about the word people use Vasty, you go right ahead, but as I read it, JD is one of if not the most liked and admired player of the modern era at Wakefield.
I've seen Neil Fox play as an old man. Topper play as a young and old man. They are legends of the club and in Neil's case a legend of the sport.
JD does not match it with them on playing ability or time at the club.
But they didn't play in the same erase and we haven't had legends like them at the club in a long time.
But for integrity, will to make something happen at Wakefield, support and leadership of the team in very tough times.....I put him right at the top.
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| Quote ="PopTart"So whatever name you want to give him, I've never met anyone who doesn't respect JD for what he did for the club.
If you want to be picky about the word people use Vasty, you go right ahead, but as I read it, JD is one of if not the most liked and admired player of the modern era at Wakefield.
I've seen Neil Fox play as an old man. Topper play as a young and old man. They are legends of the club and in Neil's case a legend of the sport.
JD does not match it with them on playing ability or time at the club.
But they didn't play in the same erase and we haven't had legends like them at the club in a long time.
But for integrity, will to make something happen at Wakefield, support and leadership of the team in very tough times.....I put him right at the top.'"
What is your problem - not once have I said a single derogatory word about the lad. Just because I haven't got a crush on him doesn't mean I don't rate him.
It is allowed to have an opinion that differs from you and the rest of the zealots on here. If you like I'll come down to BV in the morning and you and your buddies can burn me as a heretic - that should help you feel better.
All I said was that halibut was good enough for jehova - wished I hadn't now.
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| I think if you read my post, I have simply answered your question of why I think he is worthy of an elevated status above other players
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Crikey wish I'd not posted now - you Wakey lot know how to argue ?? /Debate ?? don't you !!
Anyway JD (Saint Sinner or just all round good egg ) will be the main guest at Brendon Rawlins Testimonial Launch Night on Thursday Feb 16th to be held in the Sponsors Bar at Cougar Park (he's hoping to bring along a few more guests from the Broncos as well )
As it is the Launch Night entry has been set low to allow as many folk to attend as possible though obv we are limited by the size of the bar at Cougars and it will be by pre purchase of a special raffle ticket priced at £2 .If anyone is interested in attending please PM me or email me at info@rawlo12.co.uk .
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Crikey wish I'd not posted now - you Wakey lot know how to argue ?? /Debate ?? don't you !!
Anyway JD (Saint Sinner or just all round good egg ) will be the main guest at Brendon Rawlins Testimonial Launch Night on Thursday Feb 16th to be held in the Sponsors Bar at Cougar Park (he's hoping to bring along a few more guests from the Broncos as well )
As it is the Launch Night entry has been set low to allow as many folk to attend as possible though obv we are limited by the size of the bar at Cougars and it will be by pre purchase of a special raffle ticket priced at £2 .If anyone is interested in attending please PM me or email me at info@rawlo12.co.uk .
Cheers
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| Quote ="Rach"Crikey wish I'd not posted now - you Wakey lot know how to argue ?? /Debate ?? don't you !!
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Welcome to Superleague , your right we do get heated, I ll be there, don't suppose vasty will !
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"Welcome to Superleague , your right we do get heated, I ll be there, don't suppose vasty will !'"
Why wouldn't I - you're a bizarre individual who seems to take offence at the most minor of alternate opinion.
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| Quote ="Rach"Crikey wish I'd not posted now - you Wakey lot know how to argue ?? /Debate ?? don't you?
Yes/no, don't come on here posting if you don't like it!
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| OK vastman I'll see down at bv iv got some matches and petrol
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| Quote ="cosmicat"OK vastman I'll see down at bv iv got some matches and petrol'"
what a piece of low life you really are
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| Quote ="vastman"What is your problem - not once have I said a single derogatory word about the lad. Just because I haven't got a crush on him doesn't mean I don't rate him.
It is allowed to have an opinion that differs from you and the rest of the zealots on here. If you like I'll come down to BV in the morning and you and your buddies can burn me as a heretic - that should help you feel better.
All I said was that halibut was good enough for jehova - wished I hadn't now.'"
I can't believe you didn't rate JD.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I can't believe you didn't rate JD.'"
Course I rated him just not as highly as others and I've said it umpteen times on this thread. Frankly this collective stupidity is truly mind numbing even from posters I normally rate.
So basically freedom of speech and the right to have an opinion is dead on here.
So to fit in and avoid the wrath of the thought police and avoid being set on fire by the loony tunes dominating this forum I hereby state - I love JD he's a god to me, I give him all my world goods and my first born - he is without question the finest player this club has ever had and as a human being makes Mother Teressa look like a pimp.
I apologise fully to TRB and pop tart for upsetting them. Ditto cosmic loony cat who neither of the above feel the need to rebuke for threatening to set me on fire - but hey what are mods and friends for.
Am I taking the Mick and being sarcastic - yes of corse i am but only just!
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| [i'Yes/no, don't come on here posting if you don't like it!'[/i
Jinjer , I'm not wanting to get into an argument but you really are up yourself - bet your a right laugh at parties
Its a bit of a sad state of affairs when a supporter of another club cant post on here an item/event that might just be of interest to a few of your supporters and is organized by a volunteer fans committee to benefit not just a lad who's given fantastic service to one club in the lower divisions for 10 seasons , but also as part of the testimonial backing the Danny Jones Defib Fund....without comments like that one
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| Quote ="Rach"[i'Yes/no, don't come on here posting if you don't like it!'[/i
Jinjer , I'm not wanting to get into an argument but you really are up yourself - bet your a right laugh at parties
Its a bit of a sad state of affairs when a supporter of another club cant post on here an item/event that might just be of interest to a few of your supporters and is organized by a volunteer fans committee to benefit not just a lad who's given fantastic service to one club in the lower divisions for 10 seasons , but also as part of the testimonial backing the Danny Jones Defib Fund....without comments like that one
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Oh and buy the way, I've got the last shirt he donned for Wakey, a true gentleman and my lads hero.
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| Quote ="Rach"[i'Yes/no, don't come on here posting if you don't like it!'[/i
[uJinjer , I'm not wanting to get into an argument but you really are up yourself - bet your a right laugh at parties
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Its a bit of a sad state of affairs when a supporter of another club cant post on here an item/event that might just be of interest to a few of your supporters and is organized by a volunteer fans committee to benefit not just a lad who's given fantastic service to one club in the lower divisions for 10 seasons , but also as part of the testimonial backing the Danny Jones Defib Fund....without comments like that one
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You must have missed the smile and wink emoticon from him.
I think your post obviously led into a different conversation between a few people about JD as a player at Wakey, which tends to happen a lot n the close season. Nothing to do with what you posted, so I wouldn't take it personally.
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| Quote ="Rach"[i'Yes/no, don't come on here posting if you don't like it!'[/i
Jinjer , I'm not wanting to get into an argument but you really are up yourself - bet your a right laugh at parties
Its a bit of a sad state of affairs when a supporter of another club cant post on here an item/event that might just be of interest to a few of your supporters and is organized by a volunteer fans committee to benefit not just a lad who's given fantastic service to one club in the lower divisions for 10 seasons , but also as part of the testimonial backing the Danny Jones Defib Fund....without comments like that one
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Think you've mis understood the post as jinjer is not the sort to be offensive.
I am but not in your case. I wish you all the best but I can't make it. At this rate I'll be in witness protection. I'll be interested to know if certain blow hards on here actually go.
I'll happily donate a tenner if there is a link?
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