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| Hopefully just a squad filler who can cover a number of the positions in the backs. I don't see him as first choice in any of them. Only thing I would grumble at is the contract length for a 32/33 year old who has had a fair number of injuries recently.
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| OK so we have Grix we can disagree and hoped to be proved wrong but its done.
I think its the way things are built up by people at the club creates the despondency to such signings as Scott Grix.
Chester said something like if you keep signing the same type of player you keep getting the same results. Is Grix a typical same type of player, I would say he is.
Then we hear we are reducing the quantity of the squad to get in more quality and I think everyone would agree with that. Debatable if Grix provides better quality.
We also heard 5 new signings
Caton Brown....brilliant everyone happy.
Keegan Hirst.... fair enough, work in progress, expect the odd signing like him.
Scott Grix... must admit was expecting more.
All I can say is the next two or three must be terrific signings or someone has been feeding us some bull.
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| I am not sure about the comments of him covering in the halves.
The talk of Hampshire coming would have been good, but I think the sticking point there would be the fact that I believe he is contracted for another couple of years, and would demand a fee, and quite a large one. I don't think we would be in a position to do that. The only way I could see it happening would be as a swap deal for one of our players, and can only really see SW going for one, a certain young winger we have.
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| I've always liked Scott Grix - there. I've said it.
A whole host of Giant's players on Twitter have heaped praise on him.....with one calling him the 'ultimate professional.'
Perhaps Scott can bring his professionalism to the club and this rubs off on some of ours already here!
Welcome back Scott - will always give 100%.
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| We do need quality over quantity but sometimes money doesn't talk and players look at the whole package and at the moment Trinity is not a very attractive package.
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| If we aren't an attractive package, then how come an Australian Test back rower has ended up at Wakefield.
I would be curious to know the percentage of Australians currently in Super League are actually full Australian internationals. I wouldn't think it would be over high to be honest
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"If we aren't an attractive package, then how come an Australian Test back rower has ended up at Wakefield.
I would be curious to know the percentage of Australians currently in Super League are actually full Australian internationals. I wouldn't think it would be over high to be honest'"
Where have you been all season!!!!
The reason he is with is because
he is totally crocked and should not be playing RL anymore.
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| Wouldn't be surprised if Dale Ferguson is next.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Tansey is a miles better player than Grix, Hall is a better player by a country mile, why have we let a gifted player like Hall go and brought in a old knackered dud like Grix is beyond belief. I would have kept Hall, let Tansey go, used the money saved on letting Tansey go and the money saved on not signing Grix and Wood and made a serious effort to sign Hampshire. That would be a proper signing, a Wakey lad, a young player with years ahead of him. a player who is on a different level ability wise than anyone else in the squad, a durable player whose signature would sell season tickets. Don`t kid yourself Grix is on decent money, if we had to sign him out of some loyalty to Kear, who will be difficult to say no to, then at best it should have been on a pay as you play basis only.'"
Its posts like this that make you realise that you never really know someone!
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| Quote ="Willzay"Wouldn't be surprised if Dale Ferguson is next.'"
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| I'm baffled by the reaction to this signing - for sure Grix isn't a world beater and wouldn't be our first choice FB... but isn't that Max Jowitt, who has been the recipient of high praise all season? Were people suddenly expecting us to sign a player who would slot straight in above him?!
Grix is one of the best utility backs in SL - in that he can cover the whole back line with a fair degree of competency; and if accounts are to be believed, a super-committed, serious pro who takes his own fitness and conditioning very seriously - with lads like Jowitt, Mazive and Johnstone cementing regular slots, I'd have thought that would be a boon in terms of providing a good role model?
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| Quote ="bren2k"I'm baffled by the reaction to this signing - for sure Grix isn't a world beater and wouldn't be our first choice FB... but isn't that Max Jowitt, who has been the recipient of high praise all season? Were people suddenly expecting us to sign a player who would slot straight in above him?!
Grix is one of the best utility backs in SL - in that he can cover the whole back line with a fair degree of competency; and if accounts are to be believed, a super-committed, serious pro who takes his own fitness and conditioning very seriously - with lads like Jowitt, Mazive and Johnstone cementing regular slots, I'd have thought that would be a boon in terms of providing a good role model?'"
Quite - we don't know the half of this story!
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| Quote ="TRB"Quite - we don't know the half of this story!'"
That sounds intriguing TRB, can you share something ??
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| Well said Bren. I think it was Chester who said its what Grix brings on and off the field. Something similar anyhow. Perhaps we need more of a professional attitude within the club.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"That sounds intriguing TRB, can you share something ??'"
I've nothing to share - just pointing out that unless you in the room when all this was planned you can't possibly know the whys or wherefores. I think we have looked for a player with a better attitude as well as contributing to the team, but I don't know this.
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| I to am baffled by the reactions on here but not surprised, some of the most long winded and regular posters on here live in a reality vacuum.
First of all I can't for the life of me understand those who "claim" they were glad to see Grix go - liars all of them. Grix was popular in his first stint with us and although not the start of the team he was of value which is more than can be said for some who stayed.
Second he's versatile and has already been stated honest and hard working, the basis of any good RL player.
How does anybody on here know that 2 years is a bad deal. Maybe he said he'd play one season for 40k but two for 60k - it's a gamble but if he does have two years left in him it's a good deal. But then the experts on here would know that wouldn't they
Lastly when you consider the two players he's most likely replacing Owen/Tansey then he looks an astonishingly good buy.
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| And as an aside, Jordan Tansey's Twitter page reads, rugby player for Castleford Tigers, has he gone back to Cas?
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| Tanseys twitter page has always said that throughout his time with Wakefield
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| Ok, didn't realise that, pity.
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| OK Vasty so if you are in charge of recruitment you will ignore a players age, his recent injuries, his loss of pace, his poor tackle technique, the fact that you have three players already in the squad who are better in new players position, that better younger players are available at less money. You would also sign a player who no other SL club wants and give him a full time salary and a player who has a terrible hair cut. Not forgetting that he couldn`t get away from the place quick enough last time we rescued his career.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"OK Vasty so if you are in charge of recruitment you will ignore a players age, his recent injuries, his loss of pace, his poor tackle technique, the fact that you have three players already in the squad who are better in new players position, that better younger players are available at less money. You would also sign a player who no other SL club wants and give him a full time salary and a player who has a terrible hair cut. Not forgetting that he couldn`t get away from the place quick enough last time we rescued his career.'"
I can't speak for Vasty but here's my take on it:
Quote you will ignore a players age, his recent injuries, his loss of pace, his poor tackle technique'"
I would rely on our coaching team to assess all of those things as they have a much better ability and understanding to do so than I do (or any other fan in my opinion)
Quote the fact that you have three players already in the squad who are better in new players position'"
Maybe better players in individual positions but as we're looking to reduce quantity then I'd say whilst not better in any one position he can probably cover ALL of those positions better than the other individuals
Quote that better younger players are available at less money'"
How do we know that? Do you know what Grix is getting paid, what the others would demand, whether they would choose to come to us, or be allowed to join us, whether they would command a fee???
If signing a player who can cover a number of positions to a "reasonable" standard in case of injuries allows us to run with a smaller squad but with better quality players then I'm all for it. I guess we won't know until we see who else is signed. If the other signings are average then you might have a point but if we sign a couple of decent standard players with the money we've save then why is it a bad deal??
I'm guessing that with Anderson leaving you need someone else to vent about but I'd have liked to see you at least let him don the shirt and try before condemning him. Maybe that's just too much to ask!
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"OK Vasty so if you are in charge of recruitment you will ignore a players age, his recent injuries, his loss of pace, his poor tackle technique, the fact that you have three players already in the squad who are better in new players position, that better younger players are available at less money. You would also sign a player who no other SL club wants and give him a full time salary and a player who has a terrible hair cut. Not forgetting that he couldn`t get away from the place quick enough last time we rescued his career.'"
I would never be in charge of recruitment as I don't know enough and neither do you - utterly stupid question.
Next bit irelevent, unless it's a permanant injury so what - his tackling technique and his so called loss of pace is just opinion, yours as it happens which in past experience is rarely right. Clearly JK annd CC see it different, so where do you get off thinking you know better than them and not just you but a few others on here? I mean there is opinion then there is arrogance. I have my opinions but at least I know when I'm outgunned - seriously mate take a look at what you post.
Next who are these young players and AGAIN how do you know what money they want - do you know everyone in RL?
Next, how do you know that no other SL club wants him - stop making it up or better still become a Politician.
Next and gain how do you know he couldn't get away quick enough - more made up bull that can't be proved or unproved which you seem to be relenlessly doing at the moment - why I don't know as your much smarter and honest in real life.
I don't know whether Grix will be another Paul Sykes which is good or an Ian Kirke which is bad. What I do know is that if I owned the club I'd take CC and JK opinions over those of yourself and all the other"experts" on here. What I do know is I've seen nothing from Grix to suggest he isn't worth a go at reasonable money. I don't know what that is but I'm sure you think you do
Note: Through the years your doom mongering opinions on players we sign and those already at the club have been wrong on a staggering level - I'd do you a list but I'll spare you the pain.
However one from last year sticks in my mind. Chris Anakin AKA your love child has failed for various reasons to make the grade over four seasons and four coaches. It's sad because I hoped you were right but your not, he probably won't make it because he isn't big enough or good enough which is a shame. However that's not the point. The point is that whilst having one of your rants last year on Anakins behalf you stated that Ashurst amongst other players were not fit to lace Anakins boots REMEMBER THAT, I DO. Even then that sounded stupid but looking at Ashurst this year compared to Anakin is like comapring a Bently to a Lada. Ashurst has been superb all season and is so far ahead it's almost measured in light years - we will be lucky to keep him. This is not a dig at Anakin who has his place but shows how poor a judge of a player you really are.
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| Quote ="jakeyg95"Wasn't he starting full back in a side that won the League Leaders Shield?'"
He certainly was and I'm one of the only Giants fans worried about his loss until we announce a FB signing.
He was our best fullback in my opinion.
Puts his heart into it and a great organiser of defences.
Good signing for you.
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| If we were not allowed to have an opinion based on what if then the forums would be pretty dull.
The clue is in the term Injury Prone, it happens to many players when they get into their 30`s, others younger. You are happy to add Grix to Germond, Moore, Toupou and Gibson ( who I think is a very good player ), possibly a sixth of the squad who will be fit for less than half the games.
Think you might be correct he looks like he has got faster over the last two seasons.
Two excellent young lads just signed from London under 19`s for SL clubs. Not sure if you get the opportunity to watch under 19`s and under 23`s but their are some cracking players around Vasty. Only know a few people in RL never said I new everyone.
The players agents I know hint at the cost of players, parents of players advise of offers received.
Yes you are correct Wigan , Leeds, Saints, Warrington, Catalans, Hull, Cas, Salford, Widnes and KR were gutted when they lost out on signing him.
Ex directors of the club at the time told me and who the hell told you I was honest.
Have been correct 19 / 20 on player assessment, have never slated Ashurst. Anakin is a God who has been over bulked by old fashioned fitness coach, they need to get a stone of muscle of him and get him playing longer minutes.
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