MC goes part way in the programme notes to doing, in my view, what should have been done ages ago; naming and shaming YCP for the conniving crooks that they are.

As it stands, they've been able to collude with WMDC to defraud HM Inspector, the people of Wakefield and the club, with little or no reputational or PR damage - because the negotiations have been conducted from the basis that upsetting them would scupper the whole thing. Now they've got the site up and running and making money, there's no reason for them to pony up, because WMDC have given them a precedent to develop further, without triggering the 106 agreement. They've comprehensively out-manoeuvred us, without any pressure in terms of legal challenge, media expose or public outcry.

Is there nothing we can collectively do to assist in putting pressure on these parties that are clearly letting the club and its fans down?
The thought of the club possibly moving to Dewsbury is just awful. Surely we can't just let this happen.
I was feeling so positive in recent weeks but reading the comments from MC in the programme yesterday was depressing.

We keep being told that "now isn't the time" re putting pressure on YC or WMDC. Surely the "time" to put pressure by some means or other is near. Though I suspect it is now far too late.

Too much appeasement ,we heard month after month were at a delicate position ,we're meeting on a weekly basis ,sorry it's all bull MC has got act now Dewsbury then so be it,no gun against our heads

I just wonder how much leverage MC has to use. He did well last year to get us a deal but I wonder how far he can run with this. We have been royally tucked up and xx over by the council and the developer. We don't have the money to take them to court and they know it.

I'll trust MC with whatever decision he makes and it really looks like the RFL have forced a decision this time but you'd fear any move to ground share at Dewsbury is likely to be long term one.

The council have allowed the developer to not comply with his obligations at Newmarket, without Newmarket we should move out of Wakefield no matter what happens at BV.
Yesterday was a typical example, sunny day, team in the CC semi final coming of the back of several wins over the last weeks, trying to achieve the previously impossible dream of a top 8 finish, of home gown talent in the team, playing Saints and still only about 3000 people from Wakefield bothered to turn up. Spending any money on BV would be a total waste. Lets move somewhere where the club and the team would be appreciated.

In the League Express MC says he has been backed into a corner after being told by the RFL that Belle Vue will not be given dispensation as being fit for purpose for 2017 unless concrete plans are in place for developing the stadium.
He also says that talks with Dewsbury are well down the line and their stadium needs less spending on it to bring it up to super league standards and that its a no brainer. I just wonder if it happened who would pay for the improvements to the Dewsbury ground?
Surely the RFL know whose fault it is that you are in this situation and they should be helping you rather than backing you into a corner.

It's a no brainer if your an accountant and not a supporter of the club in question. Seems like we're between a rock and a hard place. Move and watch the paltry attendances drop even further. Stay and get kick out due to poor condition of ground.

Can't say I'd want Trinity to fork out upgrading another clubs stadium.

I dont think we can blame the RFL on this one.

The club was aware that BV was not up to scratch and whilst it seems that unlike yourselves at Cas, the council will take no part in helping Trinity.
Most people are aware that Mr Box publicly denied that Newmarket had anything whatsoever to do with the council, despite thier obvious involvment in allowing the big white box to be built adjacent to the NM site.
Although things have been happening behind the scenes, it seems without the goodwill of WMDC, that will never happen and once again, professional RL in the City of Wakefield has come under threat and clearly, Wakefield Trinity is not valued by our ruling council.
We've had protests, involvement from the SoS, planning permission passed but between them, WMDC and Yorkcourt simply couldn't give a toss about the rugby club that was formed 144 years ago.

Chissitt

I'm assuming you did not mean the post to be racist. That is the only thing saving you from an outright ban.
I shouldn't have to quote the AUP. This is a question of what is acceptable in general use anywhere, never mind a forum.
I understand that phrases that used to be acceptable are no longer acceptable and can be misleading, but now, in this day and age, it is clearly offensive.

I've deleted all the post related to this one as many people quoted it. Good that it highlighted the issue. Not good that it just repeated the phrase.

Let's move on.
Poptart rule no.1 "If you are not sure if what you are about to write is offensive.........it probably is. Think of a better phrase."

Think we need somebody from the trust to tell us what is exactly the state of play time is running out cos mc has given himself a month notice to decide

Good timing by the RL about Belle Vue not being up to standard.RL hedging their bets in case Whinos lose million pound game as they will then relegate Trinity due to state of ground and reinstate Whinos to Super League.

There was a precedent set for keeping someone in SL due to them having a "nice ground", also for iconic ground.
We dont qualify for either of these

Why do people think Dewsbury is the answer. The ground holds a maximum of 3500 not exactly acceptable. We could invest to improve the ground but why would we do this because it would not be of benefit to us in the long term, the money if we are would be better spent at Belle Vue.
I would also remind MC of what his good friend the Doctor said "that the worse thing they did was to move away from the Willows" because it destroyed the attendance due to the fact that those that were used to walking to the ground were lost probably never to return.

We don't own BV. Do keep up!

This could be a really bad situation as our budget will be based on a certain level of crowd which will no doubt be above the capacity of Dewsburys ground and I suspect we would lose corporate and food and drink revenue as well

Capacity is about 5.5k IIRC

Not ideal but not horrendous, cant be a long term solution though.

We may not own it but we generate income from it and you can believe what you like but money will need to be spent at Dewsbury to bring it up to the standard for SL. We cannot play at a ground with only a capacity of 3500 (according to the Dewsbury site) and any income will need to be shared due to the increased running costs of having two clubs operating from one ground.
I presume the academy will also need to play out of Dewsbury and should a reserves become mandatory them as well.

Big enough for the pathetic Wakefield public.

Is this the time for an organised mass picket outside Wakefield town hall naming and shaming a certain council leader, It's time that dictator was brought to task. This is my sixtieth year supporting this great team of ours and I'm not sure that I could suffer the shame of playing at a rugby league ground that is not even in the Wakefield Met District. A mass picket had an effect the last time that it was tried: maybe it would be now. 80,000 citizens in this city have been shafted by that clown Box and his lackies.

It was 3500 before they built the terrace behind the sticks, easily got to be at least 5k.

Isn't it just and why now, it's the same it's been the last few seasons. It's all just so disheartening. We're having a season that at the start of this year we could have only dreamed of. We've still got a great chance of being in a CC final, yet here we are wondering and worrying where we'll be playing next year, when everyone though we were sorted for the next few years.
If we move from Belle Vue, that's that, no coming back, end of. Then a proposed move to Dewsbury lol, I can only see one thing come of that and it isn't positive. Less spectators, no corporate coin, or food and drink etc. Anyway who's gonna pay for the upgrades to Dewsbury especially if it's temporary and if there's money for that why can't we do the necessary to BV, ateotd we don't own either. What a cluster****.

What choice does MC have? Belle Vue is unfit for purpose we can't wait forever for the community trust/council/York Court. The Newmarket situation is nothing short of a disgrace the state of Belle Vue is a disgrace to be honest Dewsbury is becoming more appealing

To just walk away from B.V is just ridiculous, Trinity are the sitting tenants.

Maybe it's M.C. playing poker again, let's hope he's got a good hand.

As long as it meets all safety requirements by what yardstick is it 'not fit for purpose' for the RFL? What doesn't it do that is required? And what's changed between the year and next? It's bollllockx. So it's a dump, and?