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| Quote kevin Locke – tripping Widnes player Charly Runciman in the 13th minute;
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Cautioned for that, not his weekend?
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| Drink-driving may not be an offence that warrants dismissal. but it may query/revoke any visa. KL may not be quilty on this occasion but has has 2 previous convictions for the same, so people rightly/wrongly jump to conclusions.
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Quote ="Kiyan"Drink-driving may not be an offence that warrants dismissal. but it may query/revoke any visa. KL may not be quilty on this occasion but has has 2 previous convictions for the same, so people rightly/wrongly jump to conclusions.'"
Are you sure? Link?
I was aware that he was done for speeding and then driving whilst disqualified.
i.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/80458 ... -by-courts
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Quote ="Kiyan"Drink-driving may not be an offence that warrants dismissal. but it may query/revoke any visa. KL may not be quilty on this occasion but has has 2 previous convictions for the same, so people rightly/wrongly jump to conclusions.'"
Are you sure? Link?
I was aware that he was done for speeding and then driving whilst disqualified.
i.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/80458 ... -by-courts
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| Wouldn't buy that Locke has commented as gospel. People involved, neighbors, witnesses have already said things to the contrary. Like one man throwing bottles into the garden and moving from the drivers seat and getting into the back (which is on video).
In this day and age, there is always something on video and the police apparently now have all these. Thats why there was no arrest. Doesnt mean there wont be one coming up. Its ok coming out and saying you didnt do something, just stops a few rumours. The truth will come out, if he's done it and even tried to cover it up, more fool him. If he hasnt done anything then that will come out and he'll be exonerated.
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| Tim Smith Bailed to appear at East Yorkshire Magistrates Court Weds 30 September, that will be a great build up to the million pound game
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| Quote ="Kiyan"Drink-driving may not be an offence that warrants dismissal.'"
Or it may be - if the consequences affect their ability to do their job, have an impact on their relationships with colleagues, customers or suppliers, or brings the business into disrepute; I'd suggest that the latter would apply in the case of a professional RL player found guilty of drink-driving and would constitute 'some other substantial reason.' Safe dismissal - if you wanted to go down that route.
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| Quote ="TheGame2012"Wouldn't buy that Locke has commented as gospel. People involved, neighbors, witnesses have already said things to the contrary. Like one man throwing bottles into the garden and moving from the drivers seat and getting into the back (which is on video).
In this day and age, there is always something on video and the police apparently now have all these. Thats why there was no arrest. Doesnt mean there wont be one coming up. Its ok coming out and saying you didnt do something, just stops a few rumours. The truth will come out, if he's done it and even tried to cover it up, more fool him. If he hasnt done anything then that will come out and he'll be exonerated.'"
By gum,tha knows sum stuff
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| Not sure what action Warrington took when Morley smashed his car up in Ponte park and failed a breath test. Tim Smith has had his head in the clouds most of the season and with a court case hanging over him his focus isn't going to be on the Trins survival. Therefore we need to look at Wakefield's best interest and f that means shuffling things around then move him on.
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| The one word that comes to mind IDIOT I hate to think where Tim Smiths mind will be now when we are at a point in time when every player should be focused and clear on what is needed to do.
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| Any truth that Tim Smith, Kevin Locke, Reece Lynne and Scott Anderson have all been sacked? Seemed an odd conversation to be having with someone in Manchester last night. I suppose the 19 man squad should give some indication whether its true, partly true or complete b*llocks.
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| I've heard all of the above have been suspended. Turning up to training ed up from the night before..... Naughty boys.
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| Shows what a garbage captain Kirmond is. B Smith barely knows the group whereas captain fantasic has had his position with the club for some time. If you had the right captain in place then maybe a proper culture would have been developed. I would put diamonds on it that B Smith had no idea these pathetic individuals were going on the lash a day after they disgraced the club with one of the most spineless displays from any group of "professional....(what a joke) athletes" I have ever seen. I would also wager that Kirmond would have know what his team mates were doing and because of his own garbage attitude and behaviour in the past felt compromised in trying to do anything about it. To be honest I don't even know if Kirmond is still captain of the team! Good player but absolute disaster of a captain....he just hasn't got the proper character to do the job especially as we obviously have within the squad several immature idiots.
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| Have we a drinking ban at the club at the moment? If so then suspension could be appropriate, if not, apart from the fact they were dire on Saturday, why shouldn't they have one blow out in a week?
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"Shows what a garbage captain Kirmond is. B Smith barely knows the group whereas captain fantasic has had his position with the club for some time. If you had the right captain in place then maybe a proper culture would have been developed. I would put diamonds on it that B Smith had no idea these pathetic individuals were going on the lash a day after they disgraced the club with one of the most spineless displays from any group of "professional....(what a joke) athletes" I have ever seen. I would also wager that Kirmond would have know what his team mates were doing and because of his own garbage attitude and behaviour in the past felt compromised in trying to do anything about it. To be honest I don't even know if Kirmond is still captain of the team! Good player but absolute disaster of a captain....he just hasn't got the proper character to do the job especially as we obviously have within the squad several immature idiots.'"
He's not... Scruton is.
And he imposed a drinking ban on the whole team until the end of the season, what's he supposed to do follow them around 24/7 babysitting them?
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| Have to say it's all a mess isn't it?
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Have to say it's all a mess isn't it?
On and OFF the field it seems.'"
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| Quote ="bazzo44"Getting sick of it all to be honest, god knows what next season will be like, where we are league wise and ground, nothing positive to encourage us to keep turning up
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"Shows what a garbage captain Kirmond is. B Smith barely knows the group whereas captain fantasic has had his position with the club for some time. If you had the right captain in place then maybe a proper culture would have been developed. I would put diamonds on it that B Smith had no idea these pathetic individuals were going on the lash a day after they disgraced the club with one of the most spineless displays from any group of "professional....(what a joke) athletes" I have ever seen. I would also wager that Kirmond would have know what his team mates were doing and because of his own garbage attitude and behaviour in the past felt compromised in trying to do anything about it. To be honest I don't even know if Kirmond is still captain of the team! Good player but absolute disaster of a captain....he just hasn't got the proper character to do the job especially as we obviously have within the squad several immature idiots.'"
Other than that he's alright
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| It just gets worse and worse doesn't it? Who the frigg is going to play against Halifax now? First of all most of the team don't turn up to perform in the most important game of the year then get really stupid in the days after. I just can't believe this seasons squad, I really can't and its us the fans who suffer as usual...
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| I don't think you can blame 'most of the team' for the after game stuff. 2 people named that's all.
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| It gets better from top to bottom the club is a shambles I saw a tweet from Fozzard the other day and it says it all
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| Quote ="PopTart"I don't think you can blame 'most of the team' for the after game stuff. 2 people named that's all.'"
There is more than 2 players who won't be playing this weekend...
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"There is more than 2 players who won't be playing this weekend...
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| The 5 concerned if true should be heavily fined for breach of club discipline and quite rightly suspended.
Bring in fresh legs and those that have pride in wearing the Trinity shirt such as Crowther, Johnstone and Max Jowitt.
Anthony Walker and Andy Yates should also get games they can do no worse than the others in the pack that according to B.Smith had 'no bang'..
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| We are not in a position to take a moral stance at the time. We must win the next two games and win them well because defeat will mean the end of WT quicker than the slow death we are going through.
I must admit that the club statements are getting better but I think we have had more this season than the rest put together.
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