Well im sure if we keep shipping players out and not replacing them in vital positions season tickets will remain the same. No increase.

You have to ship out before you can ship in. Basic economics Lampy.

How many we shipped out? And how many have we signed? I've lost track

I don't mind a bit of speculation, but I do wish it could be done without the edge of hysteria that often creeps in; the latest being that Mathers is not being retained and because an announcement has not been made about a replacement, we'll start 2015 with no fb. That's despite the fact that the current season is not yet over, we could be talking to any number of players, and we have several options already signed up who would be capable fb's.

Calm down kids - and accept that like RA before him, JW has absolutely no incentive to do anything other than use the funds MC has made available to get the best team he can out on the park; and if he needs the help of anyone on here in making those decisions, I'm sure he'll ask.

Wouldn't blame him for going, but I think he's selling himself short if he does drop down a level, albeit potentially for a year or so.

Possibly but he's been to Donny and Dewsbury in the last couple of years.
At least if he goes to the Bulls permanently, he knows where he stands, with a better chance of coming back into Super League.

I suppose if Bradford are offering more money too it makes sense.

sorry i cant stay silent on this Lubey is ONE OF OUR OWN and as been treat like something that has been troden in if we cant retain such as him whats the point of having a academy

The same could be said of Kay.
Get away with paying them a low contract, then when it comes to renewal their agent asks for more and we lose out.
Anakin will be next if he is not offered improved terms before the end of next year.

I'm sure JW knows the players he wants and hopefully he will get them. I was hoping, probably naively that there would not be a wholesale change of staff for next season but it looks like there will be.
I'm concerned we are losing senior players like Mathers, Moore, Raleigh and less senior but no less important TT. I don't have a clue about the finances presumably that had to do with some of the leavers but it looks like a team build again for next season.
Clearly Hall and Ashurst are quality, I don't know about Simon but I will assume he fills Raleigh's spot. Just need a fullback now and two explosive props of the same or better quality than Moore and Tautai and the ST may increase.

I think Simon will be a very good signing based on his limited performances for Catalan and will add greater go forward. Need another Tautai type impactive prop though but have confidence in Webster to make the most of the limited finances he's got.

The other two signings are Super League quality so hopefully add strength and quality.

The squad appears to be going in a transitionary period with a coach bringing in those that he wants, as long as it's done with a good pre season I'm fine with that.

Hope Tim Smith signs.

Agree. A priority surely.

Maybe why we have to get rid of a few especially those with big contracts

I get the feeling and this was backed up IMO by Richie Mathers interview that we are going all out to blow the budget on a couple of absolute quality players and go with a smaller squad. Risky if you get injuries, fantastic if you don't.

What about us 2000 potential season ticket holders agreeing to pay an extra £1 a week to help secure Tim Smiths services.

lol - sounds familiar

You might as well increase the price of the ST

Nigel Wright anyone?

Yes i know but this way its targeted for a specific purpose a bit like a contingency fund so it does'nt disappear into the prverbial black hole.

That definitely sounds familiar!

My thought's exactly, especially if Webbo see's him as his main priority.

Indeed. I liked Mathers most of the time, but if we have to go with a cheaper option to be able to afford Smith, I'm all for it.

Would anyone like to see Webster take a chance on a younger player? Not so much Max Jowitt but someone like Harry Siejka? I liked Harry... I just think a lot more was expected from him but coming back from a long term injury I just don't think he had the confidence. I know all the comments back are going to be slating my view but what are other peoples opinions? What young gun would you like Webster to take a chance on?

Our own young guns are a good start for me

So you want to take a chance on younger players, just not our own ? Very strange.