Nah,
Only Cas are daft enough to employ a bus driver as head coach

Careful isn`t our Chairman a bus driver

Did the job got us promoted. I think big dave would do well instead of bore agar.

Glenn Morrison i belive is a real good shout.

Been around some great coaches throughout his career.

Going quite well at dewsbury.

He got shortlisted for Kiwi`s head coach, They dont just pick names out of a hat for that, They must have seen something in him to consider him ?

Always liked him when he played here reminded me very much of JD as he wore his heart on his sleeve and never gave any less than 110%.

Sorry to go against the grain of this thread but I would like to express my own opinion of the game.

Looking at yesterday alone I wouldn't blame Agar for that performance. I blame the players entirely. Even with poor game plan instructions (if they received such) how could you not lift your performance to play a team like Leeds? How can you not be motivated to prove a point and turn in a decent showing?

I honestly never expected us to win yesterday but I expected us to be competitive. We weren't.

This is virtually the same team who ran St Helens so close and also had 2 comfortable wins.

I wasn't at Hull KR last week so am not in a position to comment on that game. Hearing that Agar made wholesale changes for that match lets me think there is validity to the criticism of him. However for the Leeds match I would be less critical of our coach.

If I was MC I'd give the players a good rollicking. Ask them to stand up and show what us the fans and everyone else associated with the club means to them. If I was MC I would highlight the efforts that he'd put in to save the club and why they owe him. They owe their salaries and livelihoods to him and the club.

Heck I'd even ask Kath Hetherington and even her hubby Gary to go into the dressing room post match and tell them how they'd let the club and the game down.

Whilst I personally feel our pack is not quite as strong as last season, our squad is comparable if not overall a little bit better. We can perform better than that.

The team has had time to bed in and get to know each other now. The excuses at the start of the season can start to wane thin.

Whilst I'm not the biggest fan of Agar, I don't blame him for yesterday.

Also, change now is not in my view a good idea. Firstly Agar is on a long term contract which I dare say we can't afford to pay off. (I did find it odd to extend his contract so far.) Also now is the time the team should be gelling. They need a few more weeks to prove they have. (I'm not contradicting what I've said above, I purely mean that the fruits of this gelling period should begin to show now).

The players need to stand up. We need a much improved performance on Friday.

I would demand that they win at least one of the following 3 fixtures: Leeds, Cas or Huddersfield. This might sound like a big ask but the players have it in them to be able to get 2 points from these 3 fixtures.

Out of interest Glenn Morrison was at the game yesterday commentating for radio. I spoke to him after the match and joked if he'd be interested in doing some consultancy defensive coaching for us. He replied that he thought we lost the ball too often with errors which set us back in the game.

I wish that I owed you a few quid Wildshot, you'd probably let me off if I didn't pay you on time.
Have you considered that some of our players may not have "gelled" with the coach, who's job it is to motivate and improve performance EVERY week.

The question has to be asked WHY are the players so apparently disinterested all of a sudden? Is it the coach, has he lost the dressing room? Was it his decision to change a winning team, or send a raft of players out on loan or back to their parent clubs? Is it injuries and players are playing busted? Are their money issues behind the scences again? Have some already been tapped up for next season by other clubs so motivation has diminished? Or have they been found out and they actually are just not all that good?

Whatever it is something has happened to alter the commitment levels dramatically and whatever it is needs sorting asap as I agree we need a win from the next three games otherwise its squeaky bum time.

Hi wrencat that is a possibility? I'm baffled as to why it has suddenly changed in the last couple of weeks, is there something we don't know?

As a fan though I look on these as professional rugby players and they should have a professional attitude. Why a bunch of players would not want to put the effort in and perform against Leeds (one of the best teams in the world and local rivals) is beyond me.

As a fan who has seen the drivel of the last 2 games Im worried about how we can put the effort in over 3 games one of those Saints then look like we have in the last 2 games.

Although we played well in the 3 games prior to the KR game.
The 2nd half at London was sloppy and we allowed them to score 22 points.
The 2nd half against Saints wasn't too clever either (although they were assisted by the ref.
Then 80 mins against KR and almost a carbon copy "performance" yesterday, which is one of the worst games I can remember in almost 30 years as a Wakey fan.
The total lack of a response from the team after last week indicates one of 2 things.
Either we are just not competitive in SL (which doesn't fit at the side of the first 40 against Saints), or the coach is not having any positive effect on the team.
I have been labelled as an Agar apologist in the past and although I wasn't jumping for joy when he was appointed, I have been very supportive of the bloke over the past 2 seasons but, I'm sorry but we are no longer playing as a team and we seem to let our heads drop and raise the white flag as soon as things don't go our way.

We now have another thrashing by Leeds and a likely reverse against Cas to look forward to over the next couple of weeks.

Also, something which doesn't seem to have had a mention in yesterdays crowd, which although not shocking at just over 4000 but, there were only 1500 - 1800 Wakefield fans in attendance, which may be the most worrying aspect of the day.


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Nothing from the club today, no sorry from the players, no it was a disgrace from the coach, no it was unacceptable from the directors and action will be taken. Nothing from Kath Hethrington saying no stone will be left unturned to get get to the bottom of the problem. All we have had is RA saying we picked up injuries, well what a surprise when we have the worst management of a squad of players in the history of the game. Can we have some leadership please. All we had all season is excuses... oh woe is us the nasty refs don`t like us, oh woe is us this bunch of full time pro players don`t know how to gel and now we are going to get the injury card thrown at us. Leadership Leadership Leadership please from someone, anyone at the club.

Actions speak louder than words and maybe the team are working hard on the field preparing for Friday. Here's hoping anyway. I feel sure the players all feel as gutted as we do about how they performed on Sunday and while ever they don the red white and blue they will get my support as will the back room staff. Wtid

Although you may be right, where was the response from last weekend, when we were similarly embarrassed by an average Hull KR side ?

They don't get my support for simply pulling on a club jersey nor the backroom staff for wearing a jacket with a badge on it, thats madness.

Totally agree with this. Respect has to be earned. We have had teams with less ability but they got by because they had heart and a never say die attitude. Two qualities which the current team with a few exceptions appear to be sadly lacking at present.

I know it's been a dire depressing couple of weeks. I'm just ever the optimist as life's too short for depression. Was stood on the terraces Sunday listening to a 'fan' abusing Kirmo for entire first half and found it sickening.
Madness, your probably right.

Your dead right el rey last two weeks they've made our shirt a laughing stock ,if you put it on show it means something or don't bother wearing it

maybe Kath did a deal with Gary and said we'll rollover in the cup if you do the same in the league

The team performance can improve and unlike those on here there is more to life than a couple of defeats. I have seen it all before and would not swap places with either Bradford or London supporters at this time. We are now a well run club unfortunately some of you have become intoxicated with the team we have been able to put together. I have no doubt we will improve and yes we will have bad games but nothing we have not endured in the past. I would suggest that you have all made your opinions known so no need to keep reiterating your points of views under differing threads.
I also had to put up with the moron who would not take an hint that he was a voice in the wilderness despite this being pointed out on several occasions. I did notice he disappeared at half time never to appear again.

Atleast we can concentrate on the league now. I didn't expect to win Leeds but we did get a thrashing lets hope the lads can put in a performance on Friday.

By the same token wearing the shirt does not give anyone the right to abuse payers, thats even madder

A guy who got slated many times on here, Hendo, heart and never say die by the bucketfull.

Again I couldnt agree more we wouldnt have scored but neither would we have shipped 60 points

Finally a post that has some thought put in to it

There are a few simple reasons why we lost on Sunday, not least of which is Leeds can put 60 passed any SL team on there day and the team haven't had an off season but the main reason is....
The majority of the pack were out on there feet to me, carrying knocks, strapped up like mummies, playing on injections, our forwards are in a mess at the moment but they and the rest of the team will come good
If our forwards don't lay the foundations the back are on the back foot

Kirmond put a valiant captains effort in but is clearly not right, the guy is carrying an injury to his back I would say
Anderson looked like he was having serious knee problems and struggled to get up a few times, was unable to take the ball to the line with any momentum
Wasbrook, again looks to me to be carrying an injury
D Smith, hardly played and in the last twenty mins play had to stop several minutes while the physio checked over him before leading him off the bitch
Scruton left the field and didn't come back either, again looked injured to me

Moore looked excellent but its his first game back so only played 25 mins, tauti played well too and Ali was as always brilliant but half a pack will always struggle to create any momentum

People need to get off agars back, if its the same midway through the season then that's an other story