Which is my point, there isn't any back hand dealing or favouritism between the Hetherington's so why should we assume any different with the Koukash family? If they're genuinely looking to finance two or more rugby league clubs then I think we should be welcoming them with open arms.

True, its certainly interesting times.

Quite what your issue is with us on this i am not sure, i hope you get a wealthy backer...Hell i hope we do too.
All we expect is a level playing field and clearly defined guidelines that are visible and fair to all.
lets be fair its not that long ago that you agreed a hush hush £700k loan from the rfl that i'm pretty sure would have been given to all clubs in those circumstances.
Hopefully the RFL have learned from their mistakes.

The key word is genuine and that is something that has to be proved not assumed.
I think a cautious welcome with clearly defined guidelines is more apt than an open armed welcome.

Except that the specific question that was raised was in relation to different examples of conflict of interest, and I brought up another one that was more closely analogous to the proposed situation. Therefore, respectfully, it is not even slightly irrelevant to the larger matter of conflicts of interest. The extent to which something is about you is the irrelevant point.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

Not a problem with bradford having coolcash on board but if it was shown that there was a definite conflict and proved to send a team down do to match fixing then the two teams of the owner would get relegated in stead. We can't afford to loose money from the sport as theres not much out there willing to help

The point I replied to from bully boxer was specifically about Wakefield and Leeds via the hetheringtons.
I'm not quite sure what you are "on about"?

What I am on about is conflicts of interest, as is staggeringly obvious to even the hardest of understanding and most wilful of the obtuse.

taking your anomalous response to a largely hypothetical and theoretical point, relating to conflict of interest define as "Conflict of interest is a situation when one has competing interests or loyalties in a given situation. A conflict of interest can exist in several kinds of situations and are often bias when dealing with an issue due to other personal interests"

The fact that two parties with clear family and financial interests in common would undoubtedly in the courts be considered a clear potential conflict of interest.

Given that the RFL have demonstrated that they have a strong financial interest in keeping the dulls afloat I am sure that if the only game in town then any rational decision process will be thrown out to protect the leagues own interests

On the subject of joint interests and votes at the RFL it sure did Sheffield and Gateshead a lot of good having the hetheringtons voting on their behalf

Discuss the topic by all means.

Troll and/or make childish remarks and I/we will remove posting rights, its that simple.

Yes and the comparison of the Koucash situation and the Hetheringtons is patently different, some that only the hardest of thinking would not be able to grasp.

Hetheringtons - Two employees of different clubs, both with influential positions but not the final say on decisons and at all times have someone independant above them (messrs Carter & Caddick) able to make the decisions or overule ones that have been made.

Koucashs - Two owners of different clubs answerable to nobody. What they say goes with no comeback or questions asked by anyone with any seniority.

See the difference yet?

Of course I do, which is why I entered the conversation in the first place by pointing out that KH once had a large stake in Hull and then went on to explain why I'd done that in the posts leading up to the one you responded to.

Thanks for making us go round in circles though. Most threads about Bradford need that.

You could of course also bring up the time when GH was in charge of Leeds but had sold most but very from all of his stake in Sheffield.

It doesn't take much effort to see that what constitutes a conflict of interest from the RFLs perspective is nebulous at best. I have said I don't know what the rules are and I'm really not that inclined to go look them up. I just don't think it's obvious that this situation falls foul of them.

The suggestion that Mandy koucash is interested in buying Bradford independently of her husband is clearly ridiculous.In the seven minute interview on Sky .Marwan did 99% of the talking ,his wife had very little to say about anything.

No doubt she will speak to the RFL on her own, without her husbands interference, just like she didn't interfere when he bought Salford.

Thread cleaned up.

Stay on topic please.

Think this part reaction from his ticking off from the RFL this guy wants his own way and will do anything to get it. Hope the rfl see through this one.

I am sure the RFL would prefer if he introduced some of his millionaire racing mates to our great game rather than buying up teams himself.

Unfortunate that someone with money comes along and puts it into clubs when P&R is back on.
Good for the clubs who benefit but will make a two tier league even more visible

To try and compare Mandy and Kath's knowledge, experience and love of the game is ludicrous. And anyone suggesting to Kath that she can be influenced or controlled by a third party had better be wearing some robust protection !

OK - for what it is worth. I believe that if the good doctor wants to own 2 clubs then I doubt the RFL have the required physical attributes to stop him. Any questions and he points at the Hetheringtons. Kath may know the game and Mandy does not but it is still husband and wife so what can they say.
I just hope he does not buy into Bradford and abandon Salford.
Anyway has he got any offspring that want into a tidy little club who know where to find a good welder.
No on second thoughts we'll be fine thanks.

Mrs Koucash hasn't a clue about Bradford or Rugby League. If the Doc wants another club then be open about it if there are no rules against it, but for goodness sake don't try and kid everyone that the Mrs is remotely interested in buying Bradford and running a club in Super League.

It appears that none of you think we have a strong enough squad to avoid relegation. We have to face it someone will buy the Bulls, why should that be a concern of ours. What happens at the Bulls is their business all we can concentrate on is our own club.
I would say let's just end this pointless paranoia if we produce on the field we stay up if not then we go down. I think some commentators include/exclude clubs from the relegation battle based on their past history. I believe you can add several other clubs to the relegation scenario Hull KR, Catalan etc.
I would make one final point so what if Mrs Koukash buys the Bulls because you can buy players with money but not a team as Salford are currently proving.

Haven't a problem with anyone buying the Bulls …even Mrs Koucash. Just stop trying to fool everyone about her interest. Personally I think we have the players to avoid the drop, and feel we will get better each week .

The sport isn't healthy enough to possibly turn away men with money. It's quite transparent that it's the Dr who wants to buy Bradford. Heck, he isn't interested in them, just owning another club and most importantly another vote at SL meetings to try and push through his ideas.

I like the guy, he shakes things up and says what he thinks and isn't afraid of the RFL. The real question the RFL have to ask is are they willing to devalue the integrity of the sport by selling a second club to the Dr.

However much legitimate, upstanding and fair the clubs act there will always be an undercurrent which mumours match fixing, corruption, cheating whenever a game, transfer etc occurs between the two clubs.

It's a tough decision, at the end of the day there is a club on it's knee's and there's a man waving money ready to buy into them.