Quick reality check!

A forum is a faceless environment in which unsubstantiated rumors are created and taken as gospel truth.

Until the club crumbles then i'll keep that salt pot on the table while reading through posts on this or any other board.

no way should you be talking of leaving el rey in my eyes you are the voice of honesty and moderation ,idont know what is the truth here, but i do know the leaders of the club dont take fans serious or some of the avoidable things they do would be avoided

Basically you don't trust him because of the Cedar Court meeting, each to their own mate.


I haven't got a clue what goes on at the club just like most others and I won't even pretend to. But as far as Glover goes, he's got far more right imo than he's got wrong and how can't you respect a guy that took over the club, when we dead and buried. Stuck thousands of his own money and given a bit of stability to the club. Sure he's made mistakes but he was bound to having not owned a RL club before especially this one but I'm not going to hold that against him. Must be a bit of a nightmare running this club, juggling money, not enough fans, no multimillionaire owner, old ground, lost sponsorship etc.

Also if I was him I'd wonder why I'd bother tbh because there does seem to be a collection of fans and I'm not talking about you at all, mostly people on the terraces, that seem to have a circle jerk at every piece of bad news or rumor at the club.

Anyway we might not always agree but I do think you're a great poster.

I think we are all getting a little excited on this thread, we will soon be sharpening the knives. Things like this cannot remain hidden for very long so eventually the truth will out. However if I were Mr Glover I would be looking outside the world of rugby league for a new CEO because I have always thought that Elson is way out of his depth.

Dont think that we dont know what goes on at our club, you would be shocked if you new half mate, trust me El Rey knows what he is on about

When D Longo reads this lot, and he will, god knows what AG will think if he tells him

I think the phrase is 'this'.

I can't knock JE's commitment but people have a level and from everything i hear, his is a level too high. We need fresh ideas and geniune business savvy in that that position and right now we lack that. Jimmy probably got a position a level too high 5-10 years before he should have. He maybe would have been best serving an apprenticeship under an experienced, successful, RL adiminstrator before he got the gig. Right now we seem to be paying the price.

Has AG got the balls to get shut of him, after all he seems to be his mate, and that does not work in business, then theres JE wife taking her lump out of the club, makes you think dont it

But what are they actually doing wrong?

The club is not generating enough money to cover its liabilities, that seems clear, but does that mean it is being run badly? Didn't AG say that he wanted the club run as a going concern. If someone had evidence of money being wasted or people giving large salaries to family or whatever, or mortgaging the ground hoping to cash in when the new stadium is given the green light, then fine. If it is just cashflow, what can they do apart from increase season ticket prices? Or run a lottery.

Okay, the club isn't making enough money. That doesn't mean people are doing a bad job. It just means that the club doesn't make enough money.

AG presumably is waiting for Newmarket to kickstart everything, with lower outgoings maybe and bigger crowds, but we can't blame him for that. What he isn't obliged to do is keep pumping his own money in just to keep us afloat. He wants it to be a going concern. I like to think they are trying their best to get it there.

This is something I have been giving an awful lot of thought about recently, not just on here but with the club in general. Have to wonder whether after 30+ years me and Wakefield Trinity has run its course, there's only show much shee-ite you can take year after year before you have to say enough is enough. Sat down the other week and worked out just how much our household spends on following thew club over the course of a year and its an eye watering amount. Maybe the time has come to spend that money a little differently.

Agree with all this.

I think the answer to that is no. I'm afraid it will be a case of the fiddlers playing whilst rome burns.

But he carn't keep pumping in is own money, if he is, he did say in ten years we would be on par with Wire, hope we are. All depends on NM, hope this comes off and if it does not we are screwd

The biggest thing they got wrong was thinking JE could manage the CEO role. We started with a clean slate a few years ago and now appear to be back in the brown stuff

The next thing they got wrong was leaving him in the job

What we spend is in the control of the club and that needs to be in line with our income, the fact that it isn't is down to the management

No, keep comeing, your just like the rest of us who love our club, chin up you seem down

They are the ones who set the pricing structure, the ones who sold tickets at a £100 a go. They are the ones who invited people into the club who did a midnight flit. They are the ones have set up the deals that we haven't payed, ended up with countless CCJ's and a credit rating of zip. They are the ones who signed average players to over-inflated contracts.

So yes, despite no doubt well meaning, they have a share of the blame.

When did I miss this, or are you talking about years ago?

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Elston sign Mellars, Southern, etc who are thought to be on wages bigger then what they should be.
Personally I think there does need to be some background staff changes, whether that happens or not its not in our control. The club we all love so much yet can't really do anything about it. I hope AG comes to his senses. If we are not paying bills etc whats signing players such as Tautai helping the situation? Don't get me wrong he looks a very good player but was it worth it in the long run? I think our priorities need to be checked.

Think AG thought JE knowledge of RL players was good, thats why he gave him the green light to sign them at first, lets face it, AG did not know a RL player from a golfer

Changes, yes, but like i have said, they all poo in the pot

Just a quick question is Agar in the country? Seems to be alot of articles from Webster on the website but not any from Agar. Also at the interview by Yorkshire Radio this week James Webster was there but Agar wasn't...?

He'll be with the French team!

One thing, if we have no money, how have we signed TT, not here on pea nuts

Thats what I meant by singing him would dig the hole deeper.

FACT: A CEO is responsible to either the chairman of a company or in this case the owner. His job is to ensure that he builds a team around himself to make the business successful and to ensure that continuity is paramount. JE is punching way above his weight in his present roll and Glover needs to grow a pair and show him the door because with his crass signings during the Kear - Agar transition and his failure to stabilise the club now it is apparent that he is not the man for that roll.