Thanks, i'm not suggesting that nothings been improved and we all understand it takes time, just think it would be right and proper to let the fans know how the moneys been spent.

It's a shame a couple more lads aren't going especially for team building purposes and morale.

Agar must be honest and straight forward with some of the younger lads, and make use of Dual Registration to enable them to develop if he believes they're not to be in his plans for the season.

He can't please everyone, but he can give them the best opportunity to progress as an individual and to possibly come back into the frame at a later date.

Gareth Moores been carrying a leg injury and has only done about 50% of the training sessions that the others have. Far from being ostracised from the club he's been well looked after by the physios and has been told straight where he needs to be better if he's to have a chance of becoming a 1st team regular. He's not going to France for a number of reasons but his place in the pecking order and his injury are the two main ones.

To clarify:

There are 32 people travelling in total. The ones who are going are mainly those who will feature in the game at the end of the week.

It is not unusual for a club not to take ALL it's players.

We have also had the 3 day trip to North Wales, and that did include the younger players, so we are not doing too badly in that respect.

As SC says, we will have some dialogue with the club with a view to getting some details of the Junior set up presented at some point - there is certainly no attempt to hide anything and, if asked, the club will explain the situation - so we're asking.

HTH.

Gareth Moore aside, as a generalisation we've struggled to consistently move players up from our academy. If the likes of Davey, Annekin, Spiers, Slater etc etc aren't to feature then fair enough. But let them get regular first team rugby elsewhere and utilise the Dual Reg. It seems to work for other clubs and i'm sure it'd help develop those individuals on the fringes of our squad

It all depends on what level they're at, they may have been judged to be at a stage where they're better off under the guidance of the club on a day to day basis.

Dual reg is right for some players and not for others, it's a good thing for a player when entered into at the correct point of their development.

For some of our more prominent juniors it might be too late, maybe they've missed the boat while under the Kear regime and now it's felt that they'd progress better under the guidance of our in house coaching and conditioning.

Whatever, the thing is that it's subjective and in our case it's the collective opinions of our coaching team that decides what's best.

If there's only room for 32, someone can't go, because the coaching staff have to be there, along with conditioner and physio or whatever. Those that don't go, let's see how they respond. Maybe it will separate those who really want it from those who don't. And let's face it, if we start picking people from outside our main 23, we have real injury problems.

looks like the younger players and fans at Hull have spoken out about Agar's youth policy now he's gone viewtopic.php?f=34&t=516214

looks like the younger players and fans at Hull have spoken out about Agar's youth policy now he's gone viewtopic.php?f=34&t=516214

Quote ="quinny"looks like the younger players and fans at Hull have spoken out about Agar's youth policy now he's gone viewtopic.php?f=34&t=516214'" We have to look forward rather than backward.

Quote ="quinny"looks like the younger players and fans at Hull have spoken out about Agar's youth policy now he's gone viewtopic.php?f=34&t=516214'" We have to look forward rather than backward.

Quote ="quinny"looks like the younger players and fans at Hull have spoken out about Agar's youth policy now he's gone viewtopic.php?f=34&t=516214'" Looks a good decision from Agar as the player states he wasnt ready last season sound a bit like some of our players last season we wanted to see them but JK didnt play them obviously not ready, I am no coach so I will leave it to RA

Quote ="quinny"looks like the younger players and fans at Hull have spoken out about Agar's youth policy now he's gone viewtopic.php?f=34&t=516214'" Looks a good decision from Agar as the player states he wasnt ready last season sound a bit like some of our players last season we wanted to see them but JK didnt play them obviously not ready, I am no coach so I will leave it to RA

Quote ="quinny"looks like the younger players and fans at Hull have spoken out about Agar's youth policy now he's gone viewtopic.php?f=34&t=516214'" Ewan Dowes also putting the boot in, on page 3 of the league express.

Quote ="quinny"looks like the younger players and fans at Hull have spoken out about Agar's youth policy now he's gone viewtopic.php?f=34&t=516214'" Ewan Dowes also putting the boot in, on page 3 of the league express.

he has been told to find another club by Agar

He's been told that he's not in Agars plans and has some work to do to rise up the pecking order and overtake Smith/Wildie/Wood & even Kaye. That makes him 4th or possibly 5th choice scrum half and with this in mind it's been suggested to him that he would be better looking for another club. That's not meant to disrespect him it's just a cold assessment of the situation and is meant to be as fair on him as it is on the club.

To his credit, Moore has steadfastly said he knows he's good enough and wants to fight for a pace and prove Richard Agar wrong.

Why you want to paint Agars decision as something other than plain and simple team/player management I don't know but like one or two others on here I'm getting a bit vexed off with your constant sniping.

are you serious ? Liam has not even played a game apart from Academy so really how on earth you come to that conclusion is mind boggling

Liam played in the friendly against sheffield.

Wind your neck in fella, I didn't suggest that Kaye was going to be our starting scrum half merely that Moore has been told he's got a number of players ahead of him, one of which could possibly be Liam.

Read the post again then again and then take a minute to think about what it actualy says then formulate an answer.