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| Don't know about everyone else but I am sick of hearing the same old posters whining on about the same tired old argument about denying our young players the chance to play in super league . For loves sake change the record, our youngsters got a chance last season and look where that got us. I want to see a trinity side compete week in week out and if that means signing oversees players than so be it. If you want to watch young and upcoming English players the championship is full of them. Let's become competitive first then integrate some youth a bit at a time. Change the record please.
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| Bit in the sun here....
[urlhttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/3994591/Wakefield-wait-on-Aiton.html[/url
The man himself says he has now finally received his sponsorship documentation through and is applying for his visa tomorrow.
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| Hey, it's nice to see fans also moaning about signing NRL reserves rather than give youth a chance to be fair rather than just the other way around! Viva la franchise system
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| Quote ="J20"Hey, it's nice to see fans also moaning about signing NRL reserves rather than give youth a chance to be fair rather than just the other way around! Viva la franchise system
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Is he a reserve?
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"Quote ="J20"Hey, it's nice to see fans also moaning about signing NRL reserves rather than give youth a chance to be fair rather than just the other way around! Viva la franchise system
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Is he a reserve?'"
Nope, first teamer all the way.
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| Quote ="vastman"Quote ="kingsway cat"Quote ="J20"Hey, it's nice to see fans also moaning about signing NRL reserves rather than give youth a chance to be fair rather than just the other way around! Viva la franchise system
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Is he a reserve?'"
Nope, first teamer all the way.'"
In Aiton's terms it's probably half and half really, though must admit I was a bit surprised with how many games he has played in. Though my comment was also more general and not club / player specific.
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| Quote ="vastman"Quote ="kingsway cat"Quote ="J20"Hey, it's nice to see fans also moaning about signing NRL reserves rather than give youth a chance to be fair rather than just the other way around! Viva la franchise system
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Is he a reserve?'"
Nope, first teamer all the way.'"
Thats what I thought Vasty...come on Coddy get the facts right!
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| Quote ="brettoncat"Don't know about everyone else but I am sick of hearing the same old posters whining on about the same tired old argument about denying our young players the chance to play in super league . For loves sake change the record, our youngsters got a chance last season and look where that got us. I want to see a trinity side compete week in week out and if that means signing oversees players than so be it. If you want to watch young and upcoming English players the championship is full of them. Let's become competitive first then integrate some youth a bit at a time. Change the record please.'"
It's all about balance - something that is rare on these forums. Youth is fine but it has to be good, it has to be ready and above all the first team needs to be a good first team.
Lat year we had virtually no first team so you're being a bit unfair. However it was woefully short of experience and power. That said we were lucky and unearthed a fair few players who may go on to make it. They were IMO Johnson, Amor, Marriano, Wildie, Morton and Davey in that order so not a bad haul. However that's enough for now, we nned them to continue to improve and a few others youngsters get a few chances but above all we need a team of Pro's which bar perhaps another prop we now have.
Ellis, Aiton and Wildie give us some guile, John some excitement and if his head is screwed on Smith gives us a bit of class. That is what we were missing last year.
I really hope Anakin, Trout and Walshaw make it but you just can't rush it as none of them are exceptional IMHO.
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| Quote ="J20"Quote ="vastman"Quote ="kingsway cat"Quote ="J20"Hey, it's nice to see fans also moaning about signing NRL reserves rather than give youth a chance to be fair rather than just the other way around! Viva la franchise system
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Is he a reserve?'"
Nope, first teamer all the way.'"
In Aiton's terms it's probably half and half really, though must admit I was a bit surprised with how many games he has played in. Though my comment was also more general and not club / player specific.'"
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2006–2009 Penrith 72 8 0 0 32
2010– Cronulla 31 4 0 0 16
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You call that a reserve player
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"
Sorry buddy.....you 3 eyed fish
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Ah that make sense, didn't want you confusing us with those 2 eyed sea fellows
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| Quote ="vastman"Quote ="J20"Quote ="vastman"Quote ="kingsway cat"Quote ="J20"Hey, it's nice to see fans also moaning about signing NRL reserves rather than give youth a chance to be fair rather than just the other way around! Viva la franchise system
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Is he a reserve?'"
Nope, first teamer all the way.'"
In Aiton's terms it's probably half and half really, though must admit I was a bit surprised with how many games he has played in. Though my comment was also more general and not club / player specific.'"
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You call that a reserve player
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No half and half... either that or he's misses half a season with injury each time? We'll go for squad player if you will then. As I say though, point wasn't directly on this signing anyway. Just the overall debate.
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| Quote ="J20"Quote ="vastman"Quote ="J20"Quote ="vastman"Quote ="kingsway cat"Quote ="J20"Hey, it's nice to see fans also moaning about signing NRL reserves rather than give youth a chance to be fair rather than just the other way around! Viva la franchise system
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Is he a reserve?'"
Nope, first teamer all the way.'"
In Aiton's terms it's probably half and half really, though must admit I was a bit surprised with how many games he has played in. Though my comment was also more general and not club / player specific.'"
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2006–2009 Penrith 72 8 0 0 32
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You call that a reserve player
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No half and half... either that or he's misses half a season with injury each time? We'll go for squad player if you will then. As I say though, point wasn't directly on this signing anyway. Just the overall debate.'"
You're talking rubbish, he's 26 so if he broke through at 21 and made his way up the ranks then that's about right. Looks like he did a full season last year.
That is not a reserve or a 50/50 that's first team end of.
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| Quote All well and good but if Paul Aiton is to also take the captaincy then he is going to be on the pitch longer than most hookers. Giving Wildie and Davy less opportunities.
Andy Ellis will also need game time'"
Valid point, can't really see him being given the captaincy though. I do think it will be another one of the overseas signings that gets it though. If not then maybe mariano to get it, not through personal choice but just because he seems to be at the forefront of everything the club does recently in the media.
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| Quote ="vastman"You're talking rubbish, he's 26 so if he broke through at 21 and made his way up the ranks then that's about right. Looks like he did a full season last year.
That is not a reserve or a 50/50 that's first team end of.'"
Opposition fan in sly dig rebutted by facts shocker!
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| Well if you want to do hid latest seasons break down be my guest! FWIW I don't think he's a particularly bad signing given his age and bit of versatility. But your guy brought games into it and if think your signing a first team regular NRL 9 then it's not really the case is it.
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| Quote ="J20"Well if you want to do hid latest seasons break down be my guest! FWIW I don't think he's a particularly bad signing given his age and bit of versatility. But your guy brought games into it and if think your signing a first team regular NRL 9 then it's not really the case is it.'"
And, if you click your heels together 3 times and say "we won't finish bottom," it will come true.
Now jog on and we'll see you in Feb; I am particularly looking forward to welcoming you to SL, through the medium of a proper, old-fashioned towelling.
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| Quote ="vastman
In Aiton's terms it's probably half and half really, though must admit I was a bit surprised with how many games he has played in. Though my comment was also more general and not club / player specific.'"
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You call that a reserve player
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| Quote ="Sesquipedalian"Quote ="J20"Well if you want to do hid latest seasons break down be my guest! FWIW I don't think he's a particularly bad signing given his age and bit of versatility. But your guy brought games into it and if think your signing a first team regular NRL 9 then it's not really the case is it.'"
He's averaged more than 20 games a season for the last 7 years in a competition that only has 24 games in the season, if that's not a 1st team regular I don't know what is!'"
Touchy you lot aren't you! Plus I take it maths isn't your strongest point?
For the 10th time Aiton not a 'bad' signing.
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| Quote ="J20"Touchy you lot aren't you! Plus I take it maths isn't your strongest point?
For the 10th time Aiton not a 'bad' signing.'"
We are happy to have your approval.
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