Fair points.
Another poster has said '2 stupid proud clubs'.
I wouldn't say that I would say '2 boards who won't/can't see the bigger picture'.
No disrespect intended but after the failure of both yours and Cas's first attempts to get 2 grounds why the hell did nobody get you to both sit around a bloody table and bang your heads together?

The first pretty much explains the latter. Yes, both clubs could have opted to go in together, but at this stage, that would have meant one becoming a Johnny-come-lately in the other's project, on their territory. Club management and fans on both sides both saw that as leading to a near certain death of whichever club took such a move.

So, whilst there clearly was self-interest at heart, it was justifiable. It is hard not to come to the conclusion that the actions of the council, in trying to bring it to a head, were at best ill-thought out and ill-timed, and at worst malicious. They suggested a scenario that wasn't really the true picture (finance wasn't really our issue) and created a negative media portrayal of the actions of those involved. The more ill-informed tosh that was spouted (Peter Roe's drivel on BBC Leeds on Sunday was a case in point of someone who should know a little better, not least because someone sees fit to actually pay him for his opinions), the more outsiders saw it 'from here' as the two clubs cutting of their noses to spite their faces.

Looking at this as an outsider, well a Fev fan anyway, you kind of touch upon something which has had me thinking for a while. What happens if you both overcome whatever obstacles remain and have the stadium constructions under way and then one or both still doesn't get a new licence? Afterall unless there is a significant change of plan from Redhall/SLE(always possible!) its almost inevitable that at least 1 existing SL team will lose its place regardless of which new stadiums are or aren't built. Will either or both stadiums be viable outside of SL?

I wouldn't trust Mr Wright its taken them 5 years they have been further than us, it still doesn't mention the funding. I agree Slugger we need to kick on with newmarket now don't give the RFL any excuses.

Glad all this hollyhocks has been put to bed and both clubs can finally move on. Back to square 1, everybody has been upset/disappointed at some point over the past week and for what?

The council were going to take away the one chance of safeguarding both our clubs' futures and I'm glad common sense has finally prevailed.

Hopefully he's for a brighter future and Wakefield and Castleford can both enjoy new stadia in the near future.

Cas are already shafted now Wakey have said they wont go to GH, The only question is will Mr Box prevaricate long enough for it to be too late for us to get Newmarket built in time for the 2012 season and by doing so shaft us.

Would that decision be based on the fact that whether it be east or west Hull it is in fact in the city of Hull, and also the KC is the property of Hull Council and not privately owned by your neighbours and biggest rivals. If only it was so simple

You clearly know bugger all about RL in Hull if you belive that.
And as for it being owned by the City council well seeing as we would be going there long after it had been built I fail to see how we would be classed as anything other than a bend over and take it situation.

But with all that said if it meant we stayed in SL and didn't die I could see us making the necesary if unpopular decision.

But do you think you would survive if you played out of the KC? Would you get decent crowds? And if you had already given up your East Hull base and were playing out of the old FC ground, would you fear that you would be the victim of a merger that would end up being called Hull and playing in black and white.

Those are the dilemmas. I suspect your club might choose to move, but I don't reckon your fans would follow.

Why do I feel this whole situation was engineered by Mr Wright?
"Boxy mate we need more money from the council.."
Cardboard " only way I can do that Dicky, mate is to get the Wildcats to share with you..."
" Right ok but it will be at Glasshoughton wont it?"
"Yes of course! right I cant say anything myself but I will leak a deal to the wakey express..."
" Great you go ahead, see you next week at the bungle..."

To your first questioin no as any merger would be on a level playing field to a degree as we would both still be superleague clubs such as you and Cas are.
As for the other point you maybe correct but I doubt it tbh infact I can see some that would come back if we are in the KC.

One thing is for sure I know more about rugby in Hull than you know about us and Cas sharing a ground. And fwiw I know as much as I want to know about about RL in Hull and thats sod all, which clearly leaves you at a disadvantage concerning us and Cas, having said that its good to have a different point of view on the subject.

Paranoid by any chance if you think that ? Building should start Spring 2011.

Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Building should start Spring 2011.'" Spring 2011 it is. www.castigers.com/article.php?id=942

Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Building should start Spring 2011.'" Spring 2011 it is. www.castigers.com/article.php?id=942

Quote ="poppys mum"Spring 2011 it is. www.castigers.com/article.php?id=942'" Yes, hopes for Spring 2011 it is... [iThe official signing of the agreement means that stadium plans can now progress with hopes to start the build programme as soon as spring 2011. [/i We've all been hoping for at least 5 years, in one way or another. Let's [ihope [/ithat some of these hopes are translated into bricks, mortar and concrete sooner rather than later, for all parties concerned.

Quote ="poppys mum"Spring 2011 it is. www.castigers.com/article.php?id=942'" Yes, hopes for Spring 2011 it is... [iThe official signing of the agreement means that stadium plans can now progress with hopes to start the build programme as soon as spring 2011. [/i We've all been hoping for at least 5 years, in one way or another. Let's [ihope [/ithat some of these hopes are translated into bricks, mortar and concrete sooner rather than later, for all parties concerned.

Who is funding it ?

Wakefield Council....

Well, £2m of it anyway.

It sounds great if you read it fast and don't analyse it too much. How many modifiers can you use in one statement.
He should write adverts for shampoo or something. '8 out of 10 people said they felt like it made their hair appear to have a healthier shine'
It keeps the fans off his back and buys Tricky Dicky some more time to try and find the money to pay for it.

what is 'a build programme'? surely that's already started when you apply for planning permission. I would have preferred "the building will/is expected/planned to start in spring 2011" but those words are good too.

Lets not forget RW did say funds are there for a 13,000 stadium.
We were looking at a 15,000.
Also he did say we might have to start with either 2/3 side to begin with.

Thank-you.

Has the issue of not owning the access land to the Cas site been resolved?

The last I heard was the plea from Cas to WMDC for them to force a purchase via CPO - with the council paying!!

What is worse? Making a definitive statement of when it will begin and then realising it won't begin on that date or leaving it open so then people don't expect too much by it - it's only a rough estimate.

You're wrong. CPOs were asked for with Waystone paying, not the Council.

So what is the time frame for a CPO?

As I understand the owners of the land value it at considerbly more than Waystone do; it is obviously a potential goldmine for the owners.