yeah but to be true ted and jk do tend to have an ism about medium sized people

IMO it's not time for JK to go, I don't agree with everything he's doing but I don't have all the facts and underlying circumstances at hand. if I did, I might come to the same conclusions as John Kear.

We aren't a million miles away from playing well, many of the required components of a decent team are present in the squad. Maybe JK is too close to the issue to see the problems and he might need to detatch himself from daily training, take a day off and come back with a fresh view on things.

He needs to sever his thinking from his loyalties and emotional atatchments and make some COLD decisions regarding team selection, recruitment and re- signing players.

The team dynamics have been altered radicaly since the pre season and the existing squad have had the first opportunity to seize their chance and fill certain roles in the team. It hasn't worked!

Sam is a hooker
Gleeson is out of his depth
Murphy and Blaymire BOTH need to be in the team
The Cooke gamble hasn't come off
JD needs a non playing/coaching role
Morton needs a break from SL
We need a genuine SL standard Scrum Half

Let's get back to picking players in their correct positions, start addressing the OBVIOUS deficiencies in the team and start playing with some structure but without straight jacketing individuals from intelligent off the cuff play.

Look at the disruption to the Wakey side this season that's been down to injury, suspension and players leaving. I'd say almost all of that has been outside Kear's control.

So it's shaping up to be a bit of a poor season but theres no need to chuck the baby out with the bathwater.

Get some players back from injury and things will start to look better.

Kear still seems to have a good backing from us but what do we want him to do with the seemingly out of favour JD? Drop him, change his position, change nothing hoping he comes good, drop captaincy or use him as an impact player etc?

you say get players back from injury we only had three out last night

Millard
Morrisson
Jeffries

Think thats quite a big loss to a squad like ours, don't you think, one Bradford fans already said Jefffries would have made a big difference last night.

if I were picking the team for the next game my line up would be:
Blaymire
Blanch
Murphy
Olstrum
George
Jeffries
Obst
King
Davey
Korkidas
Kirmond
Johnson
Ferguson

Leo Latu
Henderson
Gledhill
Moore

rested: JD, Morton
dropped: Gleeson, Cooke
Injured: Millard, Morrison

millard as up to now not been any good morrison yes and bj is either good or crap,to be fair we can add blaymire onto that list

Yeah but for which team?

why he no bloody good thats why

if he does go...tell him to take potter with him as well..

to55er!



how many teams could cope with what we have this season again..influential hooker gone, tremendous strong physical prop gone, outstanding half back gone, MOST OF YOU LOT REALLY MAKE ME WANT TO MAKE ME PISS BLOOD ! to be quite honest, as a club we could do without you lot who constantly moan..

funny really because we don't tend to see you all at the away games ! apart from the to55er at wigan who wanted a certain player to be badly injured !!

Nail on the head moment right here.

He's done a great job for us, but this season has been poor. He needs to drop the sentimentality and get back to what's best for the team and the club.

So does that mean that if people don't go to away games they don't have the right to voice their opinion?

I always believed that the point of a forum was allow people to express their opinion openly. That seems to only apply to certain people who share the same views as the rose tinted specs brigade. Anyone else not sharing these views is either insulted or slagged down for their opinion.

The team are in a slump, a team which John Kear put together and as I see it he has gone as far he can. That doesn't make him a bad coach it just means he has reached his level of achievement like he did at Sheffield, Huddersfield, Hull and even England. To be fair he has been a victim of his own success from last season and expectations are now higher.

The time has come to accept that we are now lacking direction and getting turned over by mediocre sides. We are starting to head back to the days of we won't finish last because XY or Z have a worse team than us.

I was never a fan of Kear but I have respect for his achievements at Wakefield but to say he is blameless for the way things are is ludicrous the only thing he could not have seen happening this season was the Newton drug test. Brough was always going to leave it was just a case of when and more homework should have been done on Tronc.

You would probably know better than me, but the only change I would make to your team is to have George in instead of Olstrum in the centre and have young Morton on the wing. George was brought to the club as a centre, and as well you know from watching the reserves he has lost pace so why not give him a chance and play him in his natural position, without criticising others he cannot do any worse.

They would have to cope with it just like we are having to, having said that I agree with what you are saying. Its been a big upheaval for everyone concerned at the club, I wonder how many fans have thought about the affects it has had on the other players, two in particular comes to mind Millard when those three were her he was christened magic his game dropped with the ommission of those players makes you wonder, incidently since he has been injured and out of the side I do'nt see any improvement. And to a lesser extent Jeffries, when Broughy was here Jeffries was playing out of his skin and even received praise from those that did not want him back at any cost. When he came back from injury, after a slow start he has now got back to something like unfortunately it will still not be good enough for some, I bet that they wished he had played on Friday night though

Bens been fine so far since his return and will prove the doubters wrong, you know it and i know it.

Sorry for the post about how Kear might utilise JD

At the same stage last year, we only had one more league win and had just had a 5 game losing streak. We went away to Crusaders, got a good win, and then the season got back to its usual pattern. Just thought I would add some perspective.

Yeah, we have been poor recently, but we have had the guts ripped out of a side that I thought had real promise at the start of the season. Not giving up just yet.

Exactly the guts have been ripped out and have not been replaced. We are also worse off on the flanks and at hooker. Cant see where the next win is coming from. We are turning out garbage week in week out, even when we were winning we weren't great apart from the first half v leeds we were just playing teams who were either a) crap or b) out of form / short on confidence.

We need to spend some money and get in some players who we can build a team around.

think the point is that we had spent money on players to build a team around, but they got banned, went home,left, or got injured, the fans base has dropped and we would appear therefore to have no money, we risked cooke, it failed, we are left with what we have now.

Dont want to join the moaners ive done my bit, and im leaving it, but the blind faith gang may wish to have a bit of a think too.

The next six games should define the rest of the season:
Quins home
Leeds away
Wigan home
Catalan away


Crusaders away
Hull KR home

As long as we beat the three around us (Quins, Crusaders and Hull KR), a play-off finish is back on the cards, particularly if we pick up one other result. I think, however, that if we slip up on one of those three games, that team will overtake us and we will not get back up there again. Crusaders and Quins are only going to get better. I'm not as sure about Rovers though.

"No bloody good"
Bloody rubish

What sort of win ration, or how many Grand Finals, Challenge Cups and WCC's do you need to be considered by you as "bloody good"?

Come on man, talk sense......

Many moons ago that may have been the case, but i would not your breath waiting for it to happen again, washed up spent force who is earning a living of is past.

And his current position of coach at Leigh? Is he earning a living of his past when taking them from the bottom t the top of the league?