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| Sunley was behind a few other prospects at Leeds, never made it his own at Fev.
Chisholm played SL a few years ago for Cas under the name Dwain Chambers. Big Strong, Lightening fast. Cannot catch. Cannot defend.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Chisholm played SL a few years ago for Cas under the name Dwain Chambers. Big Strong, Lightening fast. Cannot catch. Cannot defend.'"
I remember it well Smokey - 5,500 Cas fans were duped into paying a tenner each for a friendly against York during the season. He did out-shine Ritchie Owen though on the other wing - more tackles and didn't let as many tries in.
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| Unbelievably that was 6 and half years ago.
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| I have seen quite a bit of these two and belly is right in what he says about their talent and potential when juniors.
For what its worth I think we would have got more out of them than the couple of jokers that Leeds palmed us off with at the start of the season.
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| So if Chisholm is that bad what does that make Briscoe ? Chisholm over Briscoe anyday of the week for me.
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| Sunley has a bit of a spark about him, backs up well, and was popular with the fans after a couple of brief appearances in our pre-season friendlies. Trouble is he is tiny, although he does play above his size (including taking on players twice his size in punch-ups!).
Chisholm is very quick but seems to lack game sense. I remember one of his tries against you he went through a very weak Mathers (I think) tackle when he really should have rounded him with ease given the momentum he had. Not sure he has the all-round game that's needed in a wing these days.
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| One thing about Chisholm he is fast,Can't judge him as a Fev player they are shocking at looking after young wingers.They want instant success that why they are second in the championship.chisholm would be a threat.
Featherstone are proving to be good comedy value they announce last week in the clubhouse that Brought,Ferres,Crabtree were approached.instead it's sieka,Trout,Pitts.
Wakefield keep building and beat the Broncoes and give Webster a great start!
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| Quote ="jack in the box"I have seen quite a bit of these two and belly is right in what he says about their talent and potential when juniors.
For what its worth I think we would have got more out of them than the couple of jokers that Leeds palmed us off with at the start of the season.'"
Briscoe is back at Leeds now at least, played for them last night. As interchange hooker?!
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| I M O we should be more interested in what’s happening to our own . Having wasted the best crop of players we had in years , it looks like we will see yet another year of non-production , before anyone quotes last years 16s I am referring to the senior 19s , to me the 1873 brass is been wasted season after season , the standard of coaching in the 19s is as bad as I have seen it , you only have to look at the league table for proof. Â
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| Quote ="Final whistle"One thing about Chisholm he is fast,Can't judge him as a Fev player they are shocking at looking after young wingers.They want instant success that why they are second in the championship.chisholm would be a threat.
Featherstone are proving to be good comedy value they announce last week in the clubhouse that Brought,Ferres,Crabtree were approached.instead it's sieka,Trout,Pitts.
Wakefield keep building and beat the Broncoes and give Webster a great start!'"
"Fev are shocking at looking after young wingers" - can we have a few names here please? Given Wakefield have been turning out Mathers & Owen on the wing lately, I'm not sure many of your fans would be pointing the finger at Championship wings - it's debateable whether many of the guys Wakefield have fielded on the wing lately would be unseating Will Sharp for instance.
As for Fev announcing those "transfers" in the clubhouse last week, wrong again. It was a throwaway line on the end of a long press release. And yes that approach sounds pretty daft. But given the league structure next season, using phrases like "comedy value" about Fev might come back and bite you on the bum one day.
Nobody disputes Chisholm is fast, but there's a whole lot more to being a successful wing in the modern RL game than having speed.
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| Quote ="victarmeldrew"I M O we should be more interested in what’s happening to our own . Having wasted the best crop of players we had in years , it looks like we will see yet another year of non-production , before anyone quotes last years 16s I am referring to the senior 19s , to me the 1873 brass is been wasted season after season , the standard of coaching in the 19s is as bad as I have seen it , you only have to look at the league table for proof.  '"
Yes I agree, however I am prepared to give the club a bit of slack because this year our priority is survival.
Next season is different and I would hope if we are still in SL the whole junior set up is given a massive shake up.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Next season is different and I would hope if we are still in SL the whole junior set up is given a massive shake up.'"
Yes. Let's hope Webster's mates are better than Agar's then. It's generally who you know rather than what you know when it comes to filling the positions.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Yes. Let's hope Webster's mates are better than Agar's then. It's generally who you know rather than what you know when it comes to filling the positions.'"
Correct, lets hope Webster knows a decent conditioner.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Correct, lets hope Webster knows a decent conditioner.'"
An half decent one would be a improvement.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"So if Chisholm is that bad what does that make Briscoe ? Chisholm over Briscoe anyday of the week for me.'"
Did you see Briscoe last night. That kid has talent. All he needed was to be played properly. Far more talent that most of that Wakey squad, yet couldn't force is way in. I can see the reason you are struggling, and I can see the reason the coach ended up going.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Did you see Briscoe last night. That kid has talent. All he needed was to be played properly. Far more talent that most of that Wakey squad, yet couldn't force is way in. I can see the reason you are struggling, and I can see the reason the coach ended up going.'"
Give over, he did ok. The reason he didn't play for us was because he was gash and couldn't be d and he didn't want to be here.
As for being more talented than most of the Wakey squad that shows how clueless you are. Accept it luv, rubbish though we are we are still a few levels to high for the brother of the good Briscoe.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Did you see Briscoe last night. That kid has talent. All he needed was to be played properly. Far more talent that most of that Wakey squad, yet couldn't force is way in. I can see the reason you are struggling, and I can see the reason the coach ended up going.'"
Sorry ,but neither Briscoe impressed me especially Tom,who is vastly overated in my opinion.
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| Quote ="vastman"Give over, he did ok. The reason he didn't play for us was because he was gash and couldn't be d and he didn't want to be here.
As for being more talented than most of the Wakey squad that shows how clueless you are. Accept it luv, rubbish though we are we are still a few levels to high for the brother of the good Briscoe.
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Vastman, I know you are on your own board, so the showing yourself up is not as bad here, unlike what you do on other boards, but think about what you put.
I was implying if he had being played properly and given a chance to in a correct role, he would have succeeded. He wasn't played properly by your coach and in your team. Your team is failing, your coach failed, does that not tell you something?
Most of that squad is very average. Briscoe came back from not playing for you, and suddenly he is in the Leeds first team. That is a massive gap.
The point is, you should have played him properly, and you would have had a good player on your hands, and therefore a better contribution to help your survival.
Keinhorst on the other hand is garbage, always was. Said it when you signed him, and whether Leeds or not, he isn't good enough to get in your squad.
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Keinhorst on the other hand is garbage, always was. Said it when you signed him, and whether Leeds or not, he isn't good enough to get in your squad.'"
Yes probably the worst signing our ex failed coach made.
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| Quote ="vastman"Give over, he did ok. The reason he didn't play for us was because he was gash and couldn't be d and he didn't want to be here.
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Correct. Ooh the Leeds Mafia eh? what cards they are?
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| As you can tell from the reaction of other Trinity fans it's not me making a fool of myself - gotcha as they say. Rubbish though we are at the moment we have at least a dozen players that Briscoe isn't even close to being as good as. Don't know if that says about us but a says all you need to know about Toms comfort blanket.
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| Played ok against Hunslet but not so well against superleague talent.
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| Quote ="vastman"As you can tell from the reaction of other Trinity fans it's not me making a fool of myself - gotcha as they say. Rubbish though we are at the moment we have at least a dozen players that Briscoe isn't even close to being as good as. Don't know if that says about us but a says all you need to know about Toms comfort blanket.
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And again, that viewpoint is based on what? How many games did he play for you? how many did he get played correctly in?
I have seen quite a few with your other players, and they are poor. They are where they are in the league for a reason, because of that.
I have a feeling had you had a different coaching set up at the time, the decisions made would have been different, and your view would have been entirely different.
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| You keep saying "correctly" Gotcha.
How exactly are you suggesting we should have played him?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"And again, that viewpoint is based on what? How many games did he play for you? how many did he get played correctly in?
I have seen quite a few with your other players, and they are poor. They are where they are in the league for a reason, because of that.
I have a feeling had you had a different coaching set up at the time, the decisions made would have been different, and your view would have been entirely different.'"
Ludicrous reply - hell most players look good in a good team with a good coach that applies to most not just Briscoe. Agar was a bad coach for all of them not just him, but some have looked decent - for example young Smith. Great players look good anywhere, Briscoe certainly didn't. Yet based on one game he's a world beater, give your head a shake.
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