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| Quote ="Agent XIII"I raise a few questions which of course none of you answer and therefore opt to the standard fall back position. I am definitely not thick nor am I unbelievably gullible, I will let you work out which one best suits you.'"
Maybe if you answered the question others keep asking of you then you might get some answers of your own. I'll remind you shall I?
How would you have done things differently? You're not happy with the way MC is dealing with the problems we have but offer no alternative. You're getting really boring.
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| Quote ="Fordy"Maybe if you answered the question others keep asking of you then you might get some answers of your own. I'll remind you shall I?
How would you have done things differently? You're not happy with the way MC is dealing with the problems we have but offer no alternative. You're getting really boring.'"
I would not admit in public that we are looking to sell players nor would I of stated that we are short of money especially when you need supporters to buy 3000 ST. I would try to defer the payments by discussing it with each supplier in order to ascertain the true costs.
I would also see if I was MC if my dad who pocketed several millions from the sale of his bus company would be willing to support his son's new business venture.
I would keep the retail and commercial side going, open the shop when it should be and make sure the club replies and sort out any problems.
It's not MC fault being his recent history was an accountant at his father's bus company which is somewhat different from a rugby club.
I have answered your questions can you or anyone answer mine.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"I would not admit in public that we are looking to sell players nor would I of stated that we are short of money especially when you need supporters to buy 3000 ST. I would try to defer the payments by discussing it with each supplier in order to ascertain the true costs.
I would also see if I was MC if my dad who pocketed several millions from the sale of his bus company would be willing to support his son's new business venture.
I would keep the retail and commercial side going, open the shop when it should be and make sure the club replies and sort out any problems.
It's not MC fault being his recent history was an accountant at his father's bus company which is somewhat different from a rugby club.
I have answered your questions can you or anyone answer mine.'"
Well its a bit late now, if only you'd answered them earlier it would all be sorted.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"I would not admit in public that we are looking to sell players nor would I of stated that we are short of money especially when you need supporters to buy 3000 ST. I would try to defer the payments by discussing it with each supplier in order to ascertain the true costs.'"
Isn't this what the last board did?
Not admitting anything was wrong?
I can see why you got on with the previous regime!!
The trouble with discussing the payments to the suppliers, is that they are probably the same suppliers that have been bummed twice in 3 or 4 years and it's very difficult to play the sympathy vote.
By MC disclosing where the club is, he has not conned anyone.
The only questions are about the shortfall and how much is left and if anyone else is required to be off loaded.
The season is 4 months away, have a bit of faith.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Well its a bit late now, if only you'd answered them earlier it would all be sorted.'"
Not wishing to be pedantic but I think you will find I have stated these exact same ideas and views from just after MC was appointed by AG and he made what I considered to be a most disastrous interview. The retail and commercial operations at that time were still in place and therefore how could anyone predict what a mess the board would make of these but then again we probably should.
Do you think saying that KH was asked to invest but declined so instead we decided to employ her was a wise statement to make if so you really do have a blind spot when it comes to the board.
I have now provided the same answers on several occasions so please if you and your fellow drones can stop asking what I have already answered in a poor attempt to just to try to distract from the complete disaster that is the administration of Wakefield Trinity.
I will however continue to ask mine because I am still waiting for some answers.
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| I have another question more suited to an accountant. What is the average home crowd have the board budgeted for in their figures considering we had about 8000 last season.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"I have another question more suited to an accountant. What is the average home crowd have the board budgeted for in their figures considering we had about 8000 last season.'"
An average of 8k but with an income of I guess 5/6k. There was always going to be a drop with the price going up and a poor finish to the season. The off season will have reduced it further so I reckon it will be 4/5k.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"An average of 8k but with an income of I guess 5/6k. There was always going to be a drop with the price going up and a poor finish to the season. The off season will have reduced it further so I reckon it will be 4/5k.'"
We only averaged 8k on paper, the true figures is considerably less.
The only correct figure was the last game, what will happen next year depends on signing some players.
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| It will be against the paper 8000 that we will be compared. It is not signing bodies to fill a shirt but they must give the supporters hope that we are not just going through the motions towards relegation.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"It will be against the paper 8000 that we will be compared..'"
Isn't worrying about comparisons exactly the reason why the attendances get overstated in the 1st place. Next year we are now expected to struggle in all areas so lets have the true attendances published each week.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"What's the matter are you beginning to worry that more supporters are beginning to question the running of the club and spoiling your delusion that the future is bright. I would remind you like I and others have said if you have the future of the club as your core principal why vote to change to the new structure. It is reported that we are now one of only 5 SL clubs in favour.
I am resigned to the fate we face next season are you.'"
You are "one of the few clubs".... I enjoyed hospitality at the England game this weekend and overheard your chairman arguing with Nigel Wood on the merits of supporting the RFL's restructure (in a corridor in public view - embarrassing really). Wood basically said that if clubs did not agree then other changes would massively favour championship clubs meaning a dramatic loss of revenue for "your club". Wood was pretty animated, especially when questioned on bail outs for other clubs. Sounded like your chairman was having his arm twisted big time, anybody questioning his passion for your club is way off the mark!!
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| I was nowhere near the England game this week! I was playing football for fieldhead v crofton! So wrong person again I'm afraid
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| Quote ="Daddycool"I was nowhere near the England game this week! I was playing football for fieldhead v crofton! So wrong person again I'm afraid'"
Hilarious!
I'd check your credit card bills if I were you.
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| Quote ="waynel"You are "one of the few clubs".... I enjoyed hospitality at the England game this weekend and overheard your chairman arguing with Nigel Wood on the merits of supporting the RFL's restructure (in a corridor in public view - embarrassing really). Wood basically said that if clubs did not agree then other changes would massively favour championship clubs meaning a dramatic loss of revenue for "your club". Wood was pretty animated, especially when questioned on bail outs for other clubs. Sounded like your chairman was having his arm twisted big time, anybody questioning his passion for your club is way off the mark!!'"
Oops - can I have some of what you´ve been drinking!
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| Quote ="Daddycool"I was nowhere near the England game this week! I was playing football for fieldhead v crofton! So wrong person again I'm afraid'"
The more worrying aspect of this little scenario is that he thought Nigel Wood was you
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| Quote ="waynel"You are "one of the few clubs".... I enjoyed hospitality at the England game this weekend and overheard your chairman arguing with Nigel Wood on the merits of supporting the RFL's restructure (in a corridor in public view - embarrassing really). Wood basically said that if clubs did not agree then other changes would massively favour championship clubs meaning a dramatic loss of revenue for "your club". Wood was pretty animated, especially when questioned on bail outs for other clubs. Sounded like your chairman was having his arm twisted big time, anybody questioning his passion for your club is way off the mark!!'"
HA HA. Are you sure Mr Elston wasn't dressed as Mr Carter telling MR Wood he had failed in his mission to liquidate the Mighty Trinity.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"HA HA. Are you sure Mr Elston wasn't dressed as Mr Carter telling MR Wood he had failed in his mission to liquidate the Mighty Trinity.'"
If JE was dressed as MC, he must have been stood on Rob Burrow's shoulders!
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| Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.......
Had the potential to be a cracking little rumour did that but squashed in just over half an hour
Verified on the team line up on the Full Time site......but......is this a big cover up and Thommo playing ringers again....?
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| There is something in the realistic crowd attendance figures thing. I'm not so sure there are exaggeration so but in my time on more than one occasion I've felt that there has been a lower attendance than what there appears to be in reality over the last few seasons.
For financial planning point of view and marketing there needs to be an assessment of games where there will be a need to try push sales etc like the London Broncos game this season with community events. Like others have said attendances will be affected unless SL standard replacement players are brought in on cheaper deals.
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| I saw no problem with the announced attendances. We added the total number is season ticket sold to the walk ups? The season tickets have effectively paid so should be counted. Every sport does it.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"I saw no problem with the announced attendances. We added the total number is season ticket sold to the walk ups? The season tickets have effectively paid so should be counted. Every sport does it.'"
Did you not find the last figure given v Cas to be at odds with all the other gates.
Think you'll find its one of the smallest attendances last season.
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| There was a stark difference between the crowds stated under Ted Richardson's reign and Andrew Glover's. It was always a question which were accurate. I had hoped it was the latter but with the crowd given for the last home game I guess the true average is probably 1k or so less than the official one. I think only the Leeds home match was anything like.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"There was a stark difference between the crowds stated under Ted Richardson's reign and Andrew Glover's. It was always a question which were accurate. I had hoped it was the latter but with the crowd given for the last home game I guess the true average is probably 1k or so less than the official one. I think only the Leeds home match was anything like.'"
1k is probably about right.
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| Quote ="realist2"what has a lot of the posts got to do with the chairmans q&a qhich in itself is totally meaningless as he will only say what he wants you to hear, whether its true or not.
will trin survive? I doubt it, but then i stopped caring'"
Say what
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| Quote ="El Rey"Did you not find the last figure given v Cas to be at odds with all the other gates.
Think you'll find its one of the smallest attendances last season.'"
I think that was the actually 'in the ground' attendance rather than paid for the game attendance, if that makes sense?? Part of the Daddycool 'be honest' mantra. I just think the other way was honest too, and looks better
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