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| He could only raise 99p I was told lol
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| I dismissed this posters suggestion from last Tuesday, but after reading that, there appears to be a lot of truth, & for that I apologise.
Quote ="BOJ04"He wanted to buy and or invest in the club an was denied so left!!!!!
that's the reason I just got told over here in Australia from someone well connected with the club.'"
It’s all getting a little squalid listening to plans going on regarding the future ownership of the club, whilst the ones who actually give a toss are served up sub-standard performances for our delectation.
I’m sick of hearing the same old line “Yeah but, without Carter we’d have been doomed, he even put his house up as collateral”. Maybe he did, but it wasn’t to save the club, if it had gone bust (again) he would have lost a lot of cash. He knew how the club worked & how he could cut costs, which he did, then lo & behold the Sky monies increased.
The players may be on comparable wages to other clubs, but if Wakefield’s answer to Gideon is still in austerity mode, maybe their conditions of work don’t inspire giving that extra effort.
Sell if for a quid .
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| Why did MC ask BS if he had a business plan? If BS had wanted control has said, surely he was going to put up some cash? not so long ago I thought MC was looking to offload Wakey.Has this all now changed as things seem to be moving on the Stadium and also the adjoining land that is up for sale? This saga just gets stranger and stranger. Will there be a full and frank statement put out by the people involved to clear the air, Wakefield Trinity fans deserve a full explanation .
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| Quote ="KevW60349"Why did MC ask BS if he had a business plan? If BS had wanted control has said, surely he was going to put up some cash?
I would have thought anyone wanting to buy/invest in a business would have a plan !!!! and I would think anyone being asked to sell or allow investment into their business would want to see one. !!!
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| Quote ="Wakeylad21"So BS had to be convinced to coach us after the MPG but then wanted to buy us?
MC has said many times on Twitter that he would sell for a pound but no one is interested, well BS was but it didn't happen because he didn't have a business plan.
You can't make this up!'"
This would make a great thriller, where's slugger lol
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Only weeks into (yet another) dire season and we already have this drama.
It's great being a Trinity supporter isn't it?!
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We've got to have a bit of excitement from somewhere
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Only weeks into (yet another) dire season and we already have this drama.
It's great being a Trinity supporter isn't it?!
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But will the drama have a happy ending ?
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| Happy ending? This is WT we are talking about.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Happy ending? This is WT we are talking about.
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i thought there might be a White Knight on horseback coming to the rescue !!!!!!
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| I don't think either side in this has told us the full story yet, ...is brian smith by talking on Facebook trying to put pressure on M C .He did say there were others with the same views as him.!
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"He could have easily said, "here you go, here's the keys, fill your boots", but he insisted on seeing a properly thought-out plan. That might have been because of the money he is owed by the club, but by not handing over power to the first person who shows the slightest bit of interest does suggest that he has the long-term future of the club at heart.
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Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner. If MC hands over control of the club to someone else he loses the control over getting his money back as well. He wrote it in this very forum that it was that reason he was taking on the club, that will still be ongoing given the continuing level of outstanding director loans. You can understand that he'd want his cash back but I imagine BS would have preferred those payments to be channelled elsewhere and as such wouldn't put in a repayment agreement in writing. If it was a buyout then i doubt it would have included the director debts that still exist so he would lose all the money instantly. The club owes him his pension pot back and he is within his rights to ask for it back before he moves on, it does though provide a stumbling block to someone who hasn't a pitful of brass to chuck at the club. There is also the fact that Mrs MC also works at the club, would this be likely to continue had BS got control and MC was gone given their 'frosty' relationship? You'd have to say it was doubtful. Does that show he has the club at heart though, or is he looking after his own interests? Or is the truth is its a mixture of the two as they are both mutually beneficial? The club surviving in the top flight means more cash back. That though means the status quo remains regarding investment, something we need desperately. Neither side really comes out of this well to be honest and the club and its supporters suffer as a result. We are stuck in a massive hole and it's all very depressing really.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner. If MC hands over control of the club to someone else he loses the control over getting his money back as well. He wrote it in this very forum that it was that reason he was taking on the club, that will still be ongoing given the continuing level of outstanding director loans. You can understand that he'd want his cash back but I imagine BS would have preferred those payments to be channelled elsewhere and as such wouldn't put in a repayment agreement in writing. If it was a buyout then i doubt it would have included the director debts that still exist so he would lose all the money instantly. The club owes him his pension pot back and he is within his rights to ask for it back before he moves on, it does though provide a stumbling block to someone who hasn't a pitful of brass to chuck at the club. There is also the fact that Mrs MC also works at the club, would this be likely to continue had BS got control and MC was gone given their 'frosty' relationship? You'd have to say it was doubtful. Does that show he has the club at heart though, or is he looking after his own interests? Or is the truth is its a mixture of the two as they are both mutually beneficial? The club surviving in the top flight means more cash back. That though means the status quo remains regarding investment, something we need desperately. Neither side really comes out of this well to be honest and the club and its supporters suffer as a result. We are stuck in a massive hole and it's all very depressing really.'"
I think you have hit the nail on the head there. I think MC genuinely does have the interests of the club at heart but quite understandably wants his money back. He presumably loaned it to the club so why should it be any different to any other loan - has to be repaid!
If he didn't have the interests of the club at heart why on earth would he have taken it on initially?
If he can do it by making the club successful first then I'm all for that!
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| If its is to be Kear which i hope it isnt then MC will be able to save some more money , by closing. the youth dept .He wasted a full generation last time and will do again. too much media work to be bothered about the Academy or Scolarship
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| Quote ="victarmeldrew"If its is to be Kear which i hope it isnt then MC will be able to save some more money , by closing. the youth dept .He wasted a full generation last time and will do again. too much media work to be bothered about the Academy or Scolarship'"
I've a feeling quite a few clubs, including ours, will be closly monitoring how the mergered Hull academy pans out. If that is even moderately successful then i think it will lead to a series of 'regional academies' within 5 years
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| Quote ="Wakeylad21"So BS had to be convinced to coach us after the MPG but then wanted to buy us?
MC has said many times on Twitter that he would sell for a pound but no one is interested, well BS was but it didn't happen because he didn't have a business plan.
You can't make this up!'"
So is Mick Carter supposed to just hand over the club to someone who
a, can't show a business plan
b, can't confirm the money
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c, had about as much sticking power as a second hand post it note
Where would the duty of care be in just offloading control of the club to any Tom, Dick or Harry who said they wanted it?
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| Quote ="The Avenger"So is Mick Carter supposed to just hand over the club to someone who
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[iIn retrospect[/i
c, had about as much sticking power as a second hand post it note
Where would the duty of care be in just offloading control of the club to any Tom, Dick or Harry who said they wanted it?'"
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| Quote ="The Avenger"So is Mick Carter supposed to just hand over the club to someone who
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[iIn retrospect[/i
c, had about as much sticking power as a second hand post it note
Where would the duty of care be in just offloading control of the club to any Tom, Dick or Harry who said they wanted it?'"
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| Quote ="The Avenger"So is Mick Carter supposed to just hand over the club to someone who
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Where would the duty of care be in just offloading control of the club to any Tom, Dick or Harry who said they wanted it?'"
Well said.
As another poster said, imagine if Smith was given full control, racked up debt, and bogged off to Aus? I applaud Carter for not taking that risk, even if it's to protect his own interests as well as the clubs.
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| If I was selling a business why would I expect a business plan from the incoming party. m C said at the end of last season he was unsure of his position, he's also said if the right people came in he would stand aside . I suppose it comes down to the evaluation from the owner and the offer from the buyer. Just how do you value a club .Could the club expect a better offer from someone with as much RL know all. Is the club for sale and would anyone interested be prepared to offer a plan going forward to M C , I doubt it
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