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| Quote ="Wildthing"When was the last time a Cas Under 21's or 18's won the grand final?
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This is no place for facts.
Quote Bigger crowds - marginal
Better league position - not over the three years that's Wakefield by a small percentage
Better young players coming through - same at worst
Better finances - was true but the new owner makes it almost irrelevant.'"
Same goes to you Clan.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"They knew that the Welsh had something to secure a loan against. They knew that we didn't.'"
They could have taken 3 chunks of sky money from us like they have them, after all where having to all apply for our franchises equally.
If Crusaders go tits up again, and I'm reasonably confident they will, do you honestly believe the RFL will take their cash from the ground and leave a Wrexham F.C homeless? PR disaster!!!
Smoke and mirrors!!
Our franchise looks sounder without Ted, the RFL forced it, but we've all got what is best for Wakefield Trinity Wildcats.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Oh so it's ok to base everything else on the last 3 years but not that? over 3 years there's what? 3 winding up orders and administration, I doubt you'll get anything for finances, same goes for Crusaders but they're pretty much guaranteed a franchise for some stupid reason.'"
We've been punished for administration already or are you suggesting that the RFL punish us again. Don't get too comfortable over finances either as a number of clubs finances aren't the strongest even if they havnt been into administration and the evaluation of finance will look much deeper.
Are we conveniently ignoring the crowd troubles that Cas have earned a bit if a reputation for?
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| Quote ="The Clan"Bigger crowds - =#FF4000marginal
Better league position - =#FF4000not over the three years that's Wakefield by a small percentage
Better young players coming through - =#FF0000same at worst
Better finances - =#FF4000was true but the new owner makes it almost irrelevant.'"
Whether it's marginal or not, we still have bigger crowds. The only time you've had bigger attendances than us was our 2nd stint in NL1 in 2007. 1 season out of the past 10. Not good for a city side?
Young players - granted yours won the academy Grand Final but how many of those have since left, moved elsewhere and how many are in your first team out of choice, not through the fact your finances were poor pre-Glover's take over.
Finances - you have an owner who is rich. So do many other clubs. I'm sure profitability and financial performance are key indicators.
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| Quote ="The Clan"We've been punished for administration already or are you suggesting that the RFL punish us again. Don't get too comfortable over finances either as a number of clubs finances aren't the strongest even if they havnt been into administration and the evaluation of finance will look much deeper.
Are we conveniently ignoring the crowd troubles that Cas have earned a bit if a reputation for?'"
Punished for administration but they'll still take into accounts your financial performance over the past few years as it's a good marker of how much income/expenditure the club has had. Like Widnes, the next three years will give you a chance to improve on that, whether in SL or NL, and give a better indicator of where you're at for 2015 licences.
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| Quote ="NorthTiger"How many england academy players have you got'"
Oh I see, the RFL will be judging it on how many England Academy players each clubs got!
On the other hand they might look at the clubs recent history
Academy champions two years ago
Murphy, Blaymire, Atkins, Ferguson, Pitts, George, Wildie, Morton, Gledhill, Anakin, Trout, Griffin, Spiers, Davey, Southernwood all players who've come through and been given a shot at 1st team football at Wakefield.
Dotted round Super League and the Championship there's Wakefield Academy produced players like Mason, Snitch, Handforth, Wood, Spicer, and many others
Not to mention current full England internationals like Ellis, Griffin, Atkins & Westwood with Brough ready to join them later this year.
Even some of Cadtlefords best youngsters were given their first taste of pro rugby at Wakefield.
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| Wakey youth FTW!!!
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| Quote ="NorthTiger"How many england academy players have you got?
The better finances is because we OWN our ground. If you read the license criteria it refers to finances over the last 3 years, the only change that was made was that a club couldnt be booted out of Super League for entering administration. The books prior to Mr Glovers purchase of the club will still be looked at, if they dont exist then there will be a black mark against the club.'"
You own your own ground, technically correct, however WT haven't got a half million pound overdraft, neither do we owe anyone three quarters of a million pounds.
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| Quote ="PHe"You own your own ground, technically correct, however WT haven't got a half million pound overdraft, neither do we owe anyone three quarters of a million pounds.'"
Hmmmmm. You get your hands on clubs financial records? You guys are litttle tinkers!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="PHe"You own your own ground, technically correct, however WT haven't got a half million pound overdraft, neither do we owe anyone three quarters of a million pounds.'"
You did,you just went into administration so you could get out of your responsibilities.
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| Quote You own your own ground, technically correct, however WT haven't got a half million pound overdraft, neither do we owe anyone three quarters of a million pounds.'"
And you know this to be a fact - how?
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| Quote ="007"You did,you just went into administration so [uyou could get out of your responsibilities[/u.'"
Not really considering AG wanted to honour most of the debt
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| Quote ="tropical1"And you know this to be a fact - how?'"
North Tiger thinks he knows
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| Quote ="PHe"North Tiger thinks he knows
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Certainly do my friend
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| Quote ="Wildthing"When was the last time a Cas Under 21's or 18's won the grand final?
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2004.
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| For gods sake were here again, No matter how we points score on here against each other the RFL will do as they see it, We are the weakest links for different reasons We all know it!!
What i do know is as a district we produce a great number of very talented players, lets celebrate that and stop this pointless self assassination we seem to be inflicting upon each other.
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| Quote ="binks"For gods sake were here again, No matter how we points score on here against each other the RFL will do as they see it, We are the weakest links for different reasons We all know it!!
What i do know is as a district we produce a great number of very talented players, lets celebrate that and stop this pointless self assassination we seem to be inflicting upon each other.
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| Quote ="binks"stop this pointless self assassination we seem to be inflicting upon each other.
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Don't mean to be pedantic, but if it was a 'self-assassination' wouldn't we be inflicting it on ourselves, rather than each other?
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| Tell him Bren!!!!
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| Quote ="bren2k"Don't mean to be pedantic, but if it was a 'self-assassination' wouldn't we be inflicting it on ourselves, rather than each other?'"
Wouldn't that be suicide?
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| Bren!!! Bren!!! they're all it now!!! Bren!!!!
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| Quote ="The Clan":2b6f2cwtWouldn't that be suicide?'" , but I didn't want to appear too pretentious.
Kinley - settle down man, I've got this under control!
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| Quote ="bren2k"You're right Clan, it probably would be, although I did use 'these' when I retyped 'self-assassination', to point out that I was quoting from the original text. I considered adding [sic, but I didn't want to appear too pretentious.
Kinley - settle down man, I've got this under control!'"
It wasn't a criticism, it was a question as I was seeking clarity.
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| Sounds like a "suicide pact" to me *drinks liquid passed by kind reverend*
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| Firing squad for you all if you don't stay on topic.
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