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| I am not the messenger just pointing out that reasons exist and as you say he's gone and you doubt the fans don't care then it doesn't matter. Also I don't perceive to be in the know there are far too many things I don't know. If you really want details ask him.
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| Quote ="Teltry"I am not the messenger just pointing out that reasons exist and as you say he's gone and you doubt the fans don't care then it doesn't matter. Also I don't perceive to be in the know there are far too many things I don't know. If you really want details ask him.'"
If there are reasons why he left other than maybe the club had got fed up with him, why get involved in a pointless exchange of words about the reasons' he supposedly left for and in doing so portraying yourself as the messenger, that's the reason in case you haven't yet realised why I'm asking you.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"There are no doubt financial implications in getting rid of anyone on contract, but the usual posters on here fail to see that.
So, there's a little more to it I'm afraid than sweeping the magic wand and saying off you go....'"
I am aware that there are financial implications, although it depends on player to player, but they don’t always dent the budget too much. When I came to the club in 2012, we had agreements in place for Morrison, Tony, Davey and Tom Lillicrop. Then a bit later for Southern, Ellis and James.
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| I've already told you I am not the messenger but things happen in and outside Trinity. I did not intend sitting you on the horse as you put it so stop sticking your spurs in the horse's ribs cos it ain't gonna move.
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| Quote ="Teltry"I've already told you I am not the messenger but things happen in and outside Trinity. I did not intend sitting you on the horse as you put it so stop sticking your spurs in the horse's ribs cos it ain't gonna move.'"
I'm not asking you about things that happen outside trinity, you pointed out that Pauli left the club for personal reasons known only on here to you, I simply invited you to clarify those comments which you refuse to do so, so either you know nothing and your blagging your way by implying that your in the know, or you do know the reasons but your not prepared to share them on here despite being happy enough to let all and sundry know you know more than us, perhaps with hindsight you might have been better keeping your mouth shut after all instead of trying to come across as so knowledgeable
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Perhaps a different insight from you would be far more constructive than unnecessary sarcasm, you could always start by pointing out the reasons you think he's wrong, that's assuming your not just relying on blind faith in the coach.'"
Which coach are you talking about?
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| Quote ="little wayne69"I'm not asking you about things that happen outside trinity, you pointed out that Pauli left the club for personal reasons known only on here to you, I simply invited you to clarify those comments which you refuse to do so, so either you know nothing and your blagging your way by implying that your in the know, or you do know the reasons but your not prepared to share them on here despite being happy enough to let all and sundry know you know more than us, perhaps with hindsight you might have been better keeping your mouth shut after all instead of trying to come across as so knowledgeable'"
"Personal reasons" are exactly that.
So why would Teltry share them - if he does know.....
Would any of the posters that are close to players on here share "personal reasons" with us if that player left?
Course they wouldn't.
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Looks like chezzy is going to swing the axe on the squad both on and off contract?who will stay?'"
This is hardly great man management. How are any players supposed to put the effort in if they know the coach wants to bin them off next year? It didn’t work for Jose at Manchester United, or Conte at Chelsea.
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| Quote ="Brightside"Arundel has been unlucky with injuries and his continued presence in the squad may limit the opportunities for Croft who needs more game time.
Similarly Tangata and Navarette offer nothing more than Aydin and Gwaze who are younger and hungrier and have potential (probably cheaper too).
Wages saved toward a proper 7 and 9 !'"
If you think Gwaze or Atidin are even close too Naverette or Tangata then you’ve clearly seen none of them play. Or you’ve just plucked names from a hat. Aydin is barely out of school, Gwaze is closer but neither are anywhere near regular first team.
Naverette has generally been good whilst Tangata has had limited opportunities, be serious.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"I don't get it.
If he's so bad, how does he get in the Salford team?
And dont say the others are "carrying him" the coach wouldnt put up with it.
Also, he's picked the aforementioned (apparently) better coach than we the one we have?'"
Because he adds size to small pack giving them ten minutes of crash ball each half, exactly what he did for us.
Watch him, he’s still lazy, barely able to tackle and usually in the wrong place.
Personally I’d have kept him but let’s not pretend he is what he isn’t. Salford get exactly what we got from him, difference is they are a better team overall as we were when PP first signed. There is a pattern.
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| Quote ="vastman"Because he adds size to small pack giving them ten minutes of crash ball each half, exactly what he did for us.
Watch him, he’s still lazy, barely able to tackle and usually in the wrong place.
Personally I’d have kept him but let’s not pretend he is what he isn’t. Salford get exactly what we got from him, difference is they are a better team overall as we were when PP first signed. There is a pattern.'"
He played for 58 minutes on Saturday.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Which coach are you talking about?'"
The Wakefield coach.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"He played for 58 minutes on Saturday.'"
Yes but he only actually does anything for 10 mins each half . He could be on the field for the full 80 , he would still stroll around for 60 of it .
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| For gods sake little Wayne I was merely pointing out a player wanting to leave is not always down to the coach. If you're gonna get so miffed it might be time for you to grow up to big Wayne
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| Quote ="vastman"If you think Gwaze or Atidin are even close too Naverette or Tangata then you’ve clearly seen none of them play. Or you’ve just plucked names from a hat. Aydin is barely out of school, Gwaze is closer but neither are anywhere near regular first team.
Naverette has generally been good whilst Tangata has had limited opportunities, be serious.'"
I am serious - never said that either were regular first team but rather had potential. Worth bearing in mind that neither Navarette or Tangata are regular first team either nor will they ever be.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull""Personal reasons" are exactly that.
So why would Teltry share them - if he does know.....
Would any of the posters that are close to players on here share "personal reasons" with us if that player left?
Course they wouldn't.'"
Please tell me why he should even mention it assuming he does know, wouldn't it have just been simpler to keep quiet in the knowledge that he knows more than the rest than to go making out that he's in the know about a players private business, and to answer your other question, no I don't know if any other poster on here who is close to any player that left would share personal reasons, but what I would say is that if that supposition was a reality, I doubt very much that , that person would have mentioned it in the first place. HTH.
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| Quote ="Teltry"For gods sake little Wayne I was merely pointing out a player wanting to leave is not always down to the coach. If you're gonna get so miffed it might be time for you to grow up to big Wayne'"
I don't remember you pointing that out at all, and might I just add that if your going to get miffed every time somebody doubts what you say, it might be time to pack in and maybe leave the insults out they're so unbecoming.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"=#FF0000Please tell me why he should even mention it assuming he does know, wouldn't it have just been simpler to keep quiet in the knowledge that he knows more than the rest than to go making out that he's in the know about a players private business,=#FF0000 and to answer your other question, no I don't know if any other poster on here who is close to any player that left would share personal reasons, but what I would say is that if that supposition was a reality, I doubt very much that , that person would have mentioned it in the first place. HTH.'"
Why don't you ask him that?
They wouldn't.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Why don't you ask him that?
They wouldn't.'"
I suppose somewhere in your post your trying to make a point, but for the life of me I can't see it, no honestly.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"I suppose somewhere in your post your trying to make a point, but for the life of me I can't see it, no honestly.'"
Please yourself.
I'm not that interested in any of your points either.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Please yourself.
I'm not that interested in any of your points either.'"
I wasn't trying to make one if helps, at least not to you anyway, it was you that decided you'd get involved by defending a post which the poster himself couldn't fully explain and had to back track, where as you thought you'd get involved for the sake of it anyway.
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| No not backtracking the original statement was about Pauli being thrown under a bus by the club or Chester whichever you want it to. That is not necessarily the case it's people jumping to conclusions.
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| Quote ="Teltry"No not backtracking the original statement was about Pauli being thrown under a bus by the club or Chester whichever you want it to. That is not necessarily the case it's people jumping to conclusions.'"
Whether you like it or not and whether he performed or not whilst he was with us Chester did throw him under the bus, more than once to the media in his post match interview, he said openly to the media after the Huddersfield game away that he removed him from the field as he was a liability, something that he has done over and over again to other players - Accusing players of jumping out of the way of tackles etc... I don`t know any other coach that does it.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Whether you like it or not and whether he performed or not whilst he was with us Chester did throw him under the bus, more than once to the media in his post match interview, he said openly to the media after the Huddersfield game away that he removed him from the field as he was a liability, something that he has done over and over again to other players - Accusing players of jumping out of the way of tackles etc... I don`t know any other coach that does it.'"
Let’s be fair though he was in the Huddersfield game, don’t think anyone could disagree with that.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Let’s be fair though he was in the Huddersfield game, don’t think anyone could disagree with that.'"
Agree with that BLM.
I think the point that's trying to be made is that as a coach, Ian Watson wanted to sign him in the first place, seems to use him correctly and values him as part of the team/squad.
If coaches want to criticise players, it has to be behind closed doors and not in the media environment.
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