okay then, you can be as deluded as you want to come across as per, wether that's stating for some reason Miller has a job for life at Trinity, not sure how that works or you can pretend Wigan are not more of a draw than Wakefield Trinity currently when they quite obviously are.

Of course you are right in terms of who is the bigger club.

But there are so many more things to consider that make the decision closer.

If you are an NRL prop in mid 20s who is behind some big names you pick Wigan as it will improve your CV and you may win something. You'll get decent Coa hing and have good facilities.

If you are a stand off, who hasn't really had any success in NRL, had a bad experience at a big English club, you have friends in Wakefield, you are a trusted leader in your current team, you've been through bad times and invested time to pull your team through, you are paid a decent wage and you have a family already settled with friends......not as easy.

Because I never said any of that, try reading my post properly.

I said Wigan are not the draw card they once were and Saints and Warrington is currently where it’s at, go on read my post.

I clearly stated Miller has more chance of silverware with Wigan, that’s a given, go on read my post.

The job for life is obviously a ref to his RL career. If he accepts a new deal from us it will take him to 30 or near enough and a Testimonial, as stated! In RL terms that’s pretty much a job for life.

Problem with you is I’ve dared to challenge your alleged expertise and frankly made up connections in the game and it’s irked you, virtual ego blown. If you want to try and debunk my posts that’s fine but at least do the courtesy of being accurate.

HTH

Just a point of note his current contract will take him until he is 30, which is next year. He is also still 4 years off a testimonial at this point so i doubt it would be a consideration right now. He’d need to sign a contract until he is 33 to achieve that, an extra 30 grand a year at Wigan would probably make any gain immaterial.

Sincerely hope that Miller stays …. V underrated imo and the thought of him being replaced with Gaskell / Gale or even Hampshire would be a huge loss . Just starting to look a decent team , given the state of some of the “ top “ clubs next season will be v interesting !!

I really like Miller, I think he’s shown some great form this year and love how he puts it about in defence. Unless they pay him mega money I can’t see him either commuting or relocating especially if he has a young family settled etc. It seems we’ve been able to bat of interest from other clubs for our players for a while now.

You might be right about him not going but it's not exactly far to Wigan is it? Players in RL are known to traverse the M62 rather than move so it's very doable for a couple of years I would have thought. And the bleeder would still leave the house later and get home earlier than many of us schmucks!

Would be typical of a player to say Willie is the right man for the job, then leave the club!

Haha tell me about it! Can only go by what I’d do in that position and it would have to pay me a hell of a lot more to be sat on the M62 2/3 hours a day compared to driving 10 minutes to work!

Well let’s wait and see.

People throw enough darts at a dart board they are bound to hit a bullseye in the end.

I'd be very surprised if he ended up at Wigan. Doesn't fit right for me

Heard a couple of rumours that Hardaker has had enough of the commute and wants to come back to a Yorkshire club.

I'd have him warts and all

It’s not his warts that bother me, I think he’s probably past his best now, certainly for the money he’d cost.

Still a good player but not value for money in our case. Probably wouldn’t join us anyway.

Be interesting to see if owt comes of it.

Long shot but with the Josh Dugan news coming out of AUS this morning, I’d be forgetting about Hardaker and going all out for Duges.

Great player is Dugan, just been mared with controversy most of his career.

I think Huddersfield would be the most likely destination, unless Leeds want him back.

I could see him at Hull KR too but he may balk at the idea of another commute.

Dugan three or four seasons ago probably but the injuries have taken their toll to the point he is way below the player he was. It will be interesting to see if he gets a club in SL and who knows the current visa status.

29 and past his best

wow there's still a good few years left in him and he's far better than what we do have now

After the amount of times Hardaker has deliberately injured Johnstone, I wouldn’t want him anywhere near here.

He’s put a post on Instagram where he confirms he’ll be putting time into his business but I wouldn’t rule it out as he states NRL not RL when saying his time is over. You’re right though, not the same player he was a few years back.

Though Hardaker was going back to Cas

Yeah I’m sure that was rumoured a few weeks back.

Why the shock, it's perfectly reasonable. Also, I said he was past his best for the money we'd have to spend not that he's past it as a player. For that money, we'd need to be looking at a player being more like 25 with 5-6 years ahead of them, certainly for a FB.

For a moneybags club, he's an excellent signing but not for us, he'd take way too much of our budget. Also, do you seriously think he's the player to take us forward? He's good but he doesn't offer what Westerman did or Fifita does. Backs also need players around them who can give them the chances they need, as shown we can't offer that at present.

So in conclusion, if we had Hardaker money I can think of better ways to spend it. Just my opinion.