There's more than a suggestion above.

Hickey by a mile and a perfect example how even the wisest and most experienced of coaches can lose the plot. It’s the one big blot on JK time at the club for me and far worse than anything CC ever did. His stubborn desire to play this lard who spent more time in Greggs than in training was a shocker.

Signing players is such a gamble, especially Australians, they can quite literally make or break a club.

For me we really need to be even braver with Academy players and break our dependence on mainly reject Aussies.

Indeed.

For as long as MC has been in charge he’s followed the rule that you leave a little bit in the kitty and don’t blow it all at once pre-season.

Nobody has a crystal ball and who knows where we will suffer injuries. There are always loan players available as well as Championship players and of course Academy players. Ditto NRL players in fact mid NRL season is the best time to snag one.

Some fans on here panic endlessly wanting every position covered five times over. Apart from the obvious fact that we can’t afford it I don’t think too many players kicking their heels is a good thing should the team be doing well. It doesn’t always breed competition, sometimes it breed resentment and discontent.

If the medical staff say Tupes will recover for next season then we run with him. If he can’t then that’s when we decide.

Even a less capable Bill is still a safer bet than some of the names that get bandied around.

Correct Vastman, basic economics.

Despite it being pure speculation…Reading my comment back, “should Bill pick up another knock” that’s when I would look to settle with him and no, I don’t mean pay him off specifically. It would be a tough decision for the club but should he be on the sideline again, in the last year of his contract then we would either be left paying his wages for him to sit on the sideline and leave or come to an agreement and unfortunately have to cough up for another centre or make do with what we have for the remaining fixtures.

All the speculation aside, we’re literally paying the wages of two coaches at the moment, one of which is no longer at the club. So why would it be out of the question to bring in another centre?

Dean Collis was a legend compared to Brent Todd - that bloke was a big disappointment.

I do not understand any of that.
Firstly we are not paying for 2 coaches
Second, you haven't changed your point about Tupou. You say we are still paying for him and a new centre. Which was exactly the point you seem to be contesting.

Think it could be good to lay of B T till we see how he goes on the pitch. As Vastman says A below B T is still better than a lot that are around

I’m sure there was a long thread on here about Carter confirming that he would honour the agreement they had in place surrounding his new contract.

I think you’re misunderstanding my post then. I never contested to paying for Bill off and bringing in a new centre, if it needs to be done then that’s business.

Agreed.
It's a bit harsh wanting rid, when the guy has been giving the club excellent service for a number of seasons.
It's hardly the players fault that he is injured.
As BT is contracted, the best thing we can do is help him back to full fitness and then see how things go.

On his day, he's still an excellent player.

Yes, it's frustrating for the fans but, it will be way more frustrating for a player coming towards the end of his career and having to sit in the stands and watch.

Well what do you specifically mean,? isn't looking to settle with him paying him off? or have you a different meaning of the term, with the odd exception most of our players have been sidelined through injury this season, should the club use your mentality and look to move them on as well, if Topou had another 2 or 3 seasons left on his contract then maybe your concern might be vindicated but he has one season left so even if hypothetically he does brake down again the financial impact won't be as great, do you actually know what the problem is and the further repercussions of his injury further down the line, the only speculation on the matter seems to come from your unfounded concern, I'm sure the club will have this in hand best leave it to them eh.

But stll not said, read it how you want but i havent said "get rid of him"
For a start i know its not possible just to get rid. But will stand by what i say currently he is a waste of overseas spot due to injury and form of which may have somthing to do with the injuries lets just hope like i have already said he can recover from a very nasty injury and rediscover some of the form he showed 3 to 4 yers ago.but remember he isnt getting any younger

After all this time I've forgotten what Bill's injury was. Somebody remind me please.

There was a long thread.
But that money isn't coming out of the pot that pays for players so is not connected to whether we can afford two centres.
And although I don't know for sure, a severance tends to be paid in one. Not a weekly wage, so we won't be currently paying for two coaches.

Bad

Broken patella and some other nasty stuff in his knee.

Personally, I think he would do well to come back from that

How often do you see players move on that are under contract where it states “mutual agreement”? Do you think ALL of these players are paid off?

Obviously they shouldn’t move others on as from memory, their injuries aren’t as bad as Bill’s at the age of 31.

His knee and subsequently fans on his back

Yes. Otherwise what is 'mutual' about it?

The fact that whatever is agreed suits both parties? You never know, should all this happen Bill could just be happy to get back to Aus.

Of course there might be a scenario where someone might want to go home so much they turn down their contract money but usually they would negotiate a pay oif to have a mutual agreement.

If he's just going home he could just do that without mutually agreeing it with the club.

And don’t forget with all this off season malarkey upon us with players moving on or in as the case may be ,the ongoing drama of Will Bill or won’t Bill. The club must think he’ll be okay or why show arundel the door ,who has covered well ,or have we a signing waiting in the wings ,I think that one is much too early to tell .We have I think an unusual situation where we have a ex coach on gardening leave ,which is obviously going to impact on player buying power in the short term at least .Exciting times ahead I’m sure ,and one I’m hoping gets off to a start like we finished this season ,with a good solid competitive team ,whoever is in it.
Hearing now through the jungle drum that Chester Is Leigh bound in some capacity on the coaching side ,good luck in your new adventure if true .

I don’t know what sort of drum you’ve got but you might need to update it. Leigh announced Chester yesterday.

It's probably true that Bill hasn't appeared to be at his best, but we need to remember that this has also conincided with the team in general struggling during this time, so it hasn't just been him. If the team continues on this upward trend then there's every chance that he'll improve from the last 18 months performances as well

I got the feeling it was Arundel's choice to call it a day at this level. He has suffered a lot with injuries over the last few years.