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| Quote ="Poynton"Michael Carter was involved in the club when Elston was running it in to the ground. What sort of an accountant is he? Just look at the website and try and buy a ticket for the next home game and you get offered tickets for last season. Do they really want to make money or what? If you want to wear rose coloured spectacles and have faith in people who have already failed the club then carry on. I could go on old settee in the toilets turnstiles never opened etc etc'"
My word what a load of guff.
I'm still baffled as to why MC wants to be involved in the club, I can't see his motive and that still worries me.
However there is no doubt he has sorted the club out in a big way which shows he's a bang on accountant.
As for his part in the Glover era, he came in late - wasn't the clubs actual accountant and unless he'd have made a big effort to look would not have seen the dodgy figures right until the end (the last 12 month) - if you knew anything about running a RL club it's very easy to cook the books so as even the best accountants can't spot the scam.
He's probably not guilt free but it's unfair to blame him for not spotting the problem any quicker than anyone else in the game.
As for the way the clubs run today it's not slick I agree, but in the list of priorities facing MC and Co it's not that bad.
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| Quote ="vastman"My word what a load of guff.
I'm still baffled as to why MC wants to be involved in the club, I can't see his motive and that still worries me.
However there is no doubt he has sorted the club out in a big way which shows he's a bang on accountant.
As for his part in the Glover era, he came in late - wasn't the clubs actual accountant and unless he'd have made a big effort to look would not have seen the dodgy figures right until the end (the last 12 month) - if you knew anything about running a RL club it's very easy to cook the books so as even the best accountants can't spot the scam.
He's probably not guilt free but it's unfair to blame him for not spotting the problem any quicker than anyone else in the game.
As for the way the clubs run today it's not slick I agree, but in the list of priorities facing MC and Co it's not that bad.'"
Wasn't Eric T the accountant during Glover's era?
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| Quote ="JINJER"Wasn't Eric T the accountant during Glover's era?'"
Don't think so but you might be right, certainly was under the Ted regime.
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| After MC came in didn't he say he know what the debts are then a month later found another 150k missing !
Didn't look had enough .....maybe
I know what money he as put in and fair play but what interest his he getting out ?
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| Quote ="vastman"Who says YC have not delivered - you don't know that yet. What you should have put is that YC have not delivered NM as per the original plans. Maybe it's early and you're not on your game yet.
By club I assume you mean Trust as the clubs input in this is and always was minimal, that's why it was called a community stadium - common error for the terminally ignorant.
So yes you do clearly see things differently it would appear - you see what you want to see.
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The one thing I don't see is a stadium any time soon , unless they can build one in just over 6 months for the 2015 season as planned ...so for me not delivered
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| Quote ="TV200"The one thing I don't see is a stadium any time soon , unless they can build one in just over 6 months for the 2015 season as planned ...so for me not delivered'"
Bit pedantic but true true I suppose, I can't see that happening by then myself or certainly not in it's entirety.
However would that not fall under "not delivered on time" and as you claim there was no time limit in the agreement so surely that doesn't count ![Thumbs up icon_thumb.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_thumb.gif)
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| Quote ="vastman"Bit pedantic but true true I suppose, I can't see that happening by then myself or certainly not in it's entirety.
However would that not fall under "not delivered on time" and as you claim there was no time limit in the agreement so surely that doesn't count
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Splitting hairs
So you could say I'm a lottery winner but my number have not just come up yet?
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| Quote ="TV200"Splitting hairs
So you could say I'm a lottery winner but my number have not just come up yet?'"
Yep,
Isn't that what you're doing until the facts are in the open - in the broader sense a change of plan for the right reasons is not a failure to deliver.
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| Quote ="vastman"Yep,
Isn't that what you're doing until the facts are in the open - in the broader sense a change of plan for the right reasons is not a failure to deliver.'"
So I refer you to some of my earlier posts the club/WCT say nothing and Res 4 NM say "good news but can't say anything " so please tell us all the facts
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| Quote ="TV200"So I refer you to some of my earlier posts the club/WCT say nothing and Res 4 NM say "good news but can't say anything " so please tell us all the facts'"
Not my place is it, all in due course. There is such a thing as confidentiality so don't lets be silly. We live in a democracy not a free for all.
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| Quote ="TV200"So I refer you to some of my earlier posts the club/WCT say nothing and Res 4 NM say "good news but can't say anything " so please tell us all the facts'"
When the time is right, the club will tell all. As will everyone else involved.
This may astound you, but we're not doing his for your pleasure!
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| Quote ="TRB"When the time is right, the club will tell all. As will everyone else involved.
This may astound you, but we're not doing his for your pleasure!'"
Make it public and you'll find it a lot harder for people to not deliver on time
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| Quote ="TV200"Make it public and you'll find it a lot harder for people to not deliver on time'"
Tell you what, I'll ignore the requests of the club, the Trust, the council and the developer and I'll spread it all on here, because it pleases you!
I'm being sarcastic, but there are, as always, good reasons for what we do and why we do it. There may be another way, but I can't see a queue offering to do it, just maybe one with people with bright ideas.
All in good time!
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| Quote ="TRB"Tell you what, I'll ignore the requests of the club, the Trust, the council and the developer and I'll spread it all on here, because it pleases you!
I'm being sarcastic, but there are, as always, good reasons for what we do and why we do it. There may be another way, but I can't see a queue offering to do it, just maybe one with people with bright ideas.
All in good time!'"
Sir Rodney thinks it good to talk or we would be here!
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| Quote ="TV200"Sir Rodney thinks it good to talk or we would be here!'"
Sir Rodney was faced with the WE running a story of half-truths or one which had some substance to it. He chose the latter.
Not playing any more! You'll have to make the rest up - shouldn't be a problem to you!
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| Quote ="TRB"Sir Rodney was faced with the WE running a story of half-truths or one which had some substance to it. He chose the latter.
Not playing any more! You'll have to make the rest up - shouldn't be a problem to you!'"
Look who's spat his dummy out !
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| TV200 1st class troll.
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| I'm so sorry , I must not say anything negative or how I feel
Everything is just Rosie
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| Quote ="TV200"I'm so sorry , I must not say anything negative or how I feel
Everything is just Rosie'"
I think you mean "rosy"
Back on topic, although you may want to know the answer to many, many questions, it has been pointed out that this information is not ready for public consumption and regardless of your own personal demands and wishes, it just isn't going to happen.
Please feel free to come back if you have something to add to the thread, or any other topic. ![WAVE icon_wave.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wave.gif)
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| Lets keep this at an adult level and not spoil it by resorting to childish remarks.
If posters can't manage that then i'll help them with it.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I think you mean "rosy"
Back on topic, although you may want to know the answer to many, many questions, it has been pointed out that this information is not ready for public consumption and regardless of your own personal demands and wishes, it just isn't going to happen.
Please feel free to come back if you have something to add to the thread, or any other topic.
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Sorry predictive text ! But if you are to point out my mistakes please point out others or I could feel bullied !
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| Quote ="TRB"Sir Rodney was faced with the =#FF0000WE running a story of half-truths or one which had some substance to it. He=#FF0000 chose the latter.
Not playing any more! You'll have to make the rest up - shouldn't be a problem to you!'"
I didn't know about that but it makes more sense now that i do. I was assuming Sir Rodney had broken ranks.
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| Quote ="Poynton"Michael Carter was involved in the club when Elston was running it in to the ground. What sort of an accountant is he? Just look at the website and try and buy a ticket for the next home game and you get offered tickets for last season. Do they really want to make money or what? If you want to wear rose coloured spectacles and have faith in people who have already failed the club then carry on. =#FF0000I could go on old settee in the toilets turnstiles never opened etc etc'" funny you mention this as I asked Chris and he had know knowledge of it as for the turn styles which one are you on about
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| Turnstiles at the Agbrigg Road end have not been open this season and as home fans are not allowed to enter through the western terrace end its a long walk round to get in . I know its only a small thing but it wouldnt happen at most Superleague clubs . Perhaps the reason the club is so shambolic is the people with the money and know how simply dont want to be associated with a club who have regularly failed to pay bills, the tax man and owed money to players who have left the club.
if Michael Carter is still chairman in 3 years time, Trinity are still in the Superleague playing in a stadium which the city can be proud of then all that has gone on in the past will be forgotten but history suggests that is unlikely.
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| Quote ="Poynton"Turnstiles at the Agbrigg Road end have not been open this season and as home fans are not allowed to enter through the western terrace end its a long walk round to get in . I know its only a small thing but it wouldnt happen at most Superleague clubs . Perhaps the reason the club is so shambolic is the people with the money and know how simply dont want to be associated with a club who have regularly failed to pay bills, the tax man and owed money to players who have left the club.
if Michael Carter is still chairman in 3 years time, Trinity are still in the Superleague playing in a stadium which the city can be proud of then all that has gone on in the past will be forgotten but history suggests that is unlikely.'"
they are open to ticket only due to the turn style having a fault, would you like enter that end then buy a ticket ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif) so much hardship having to walk around eh
shambolic bill paying are we not talking about previous regimes
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