Awful game. Both teams were poor but we were a comfortable second. Amor was our best by a mile, Kirmo put the effort in and Lyne with his try finally showed why he should be playing on the wing but that was about it for positives. Looked like most of them were already on the beach.

pleased to see Lynn run a quality try

the end

I dread to think what is going to happen when we play Cas. I think instead of wearing ginger beards we should all wear ring master suits to cheer on that bunch of clowns masquerading as WTW

Supposed to be professional sportsmen!! Poor doesn't come near to describing the "performance" today. Disgusting.

Lee smith is no stand off put him back in the centre, Lynne on wing and give Kay a chance at stand off

Our kicking game at present must be the worst in the league, massive improvement needed in this and many other areas

It's just a rerun of what we've seen since and including the Widnes game. I cannot understand how our ball handling can be so consistently bad.

Personally think Lyne showed with his try why he should play on the wing. Amor, Kirmond and Kaye all played well. But turning up for 10 minutes a game simply isn't good enough.

Saints never got out of second gear and were comfortable throughout

Could not see a win today before the game so not let down on that one but the lack of pride and passion shown was a massive let down.Agars selections baffle me why not put Goulding on at half time as we were miles away from opening them up and let him sink or swim.

Washbrook needs dropping. Annakin should play next week but doubt he will

The worry for me started before that, when we squeezed past a terrible Salford and London side and got those wins, that showed me how bad the team was, its not really improved and its gone backwards on last season.

Lynne took his try well and showed something of his early form! at least he has got pace.This was a average saints team and we should have beaten them on our turf.How much longer have we to endure Agars crap coaching?no structure no pride no idea. Mathers was a disgrace today and needs to be shown the door,how many times does he let the ball bounce,idles about mouthing off at his team mates.Once again we need a clear out Agar top of the list with Mathers close behind.

Tim Smiths depth passing to the right hand side is cringe worthy, having to change body feet position highlights his intention of direction and was easily snuffed out

In honesty Al, I couldn't remember who we played before Widnes so I was a little lazy in suggesting it started there. But I'm in full agreement with you, we've really struggled this season. It's quite alarming considering we've improved our playing rooster.

Well unless I've missed something and Tuson apart, I think what you saw today is more or less what we will get next season. Will be a real struggle to remain in SL unless the squad is strengthend .

Never stopped Andy Gregory being a one sided passer. It's the players around him that make him look bad.

Really?

A lot of you have very short memories! Yes there were errors, yes it was a 'nothing' match but we have played far worse than that in recent seasons!

Bradford away springs to mind!!!! Castleford at MM, Salford at home.

And there's more, but depression has got me

And? We didn't have the squad in recent seasons to what we have now. This is the best set of players we've had in super league by a country mile. Yet it's keystone cops rugby every week. A decent coach could sort it but we don't have one.

How would another coach stop forward passes and knock ons? It's the errors by the players that are causing these narrow defeats! Yes we have a good squad but they clearly aren't quite as good a everyone thinks or these errors wouldn't keep happening!!!

Agar must PLAY Goulding from the start with Tim Smith for the remaining games. Forget Sykes until next season.

Give Wildie a chance at 9 off bench as Aiton being played too much. Keep Kaye on wing. Play Annakin off bench and start with Tautai at 13. Put Lee Smith on bench as utility back.

SELL or don't renew contracts of Washbrook, Mellars, Molloy, Trout, Fox.

they are a good squad on paper but now i think the balance of our current talent makes us easy to play against, we have a great pack, who free up space for creative players, of which we have one, our backs smith t and collis aside are woefull, it would appear we have no money again, so maube we have to make a really tough decision, sell amor, or poore, or kirkmond, weaken our pack by one plater and then invest in an attacking SO or LF?? no in a perfect world id like to keep the pack AND have attacking options but if we have so invest to score more. should we do it??


i will now await to be shot, its been a while!

That's laughable. Obviously teams make errors even Brisbane or Wigan. However their respective coaches put them in a position where they have a game plan to win games. Our coach has no plan, picks players regardless of form wastes bench spots, picks players out of position and this is why we've gone backwards.

look at how many games we have lost by just a few points, if the errors wouldn't have happened we could easily have won them then you lot would be saying Agar was the best thing to happen at the club!!!

why sell any of the pack its not like they aren't doing what they are payed for, time the halves put in more work away from the game and learn to do their job correctly

snowie, id sell one of the "crown jewels" in the pack if it was the only way to bring in additional creativity in the halves, I know your not a timmy fan, but to be honest with a SO who could break a line or find a gap hed be worth double the ponts e creates now.

im not saying i like it, im saying we could lose one of the saleable assets to buy something we desperately need?