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| Quote ="homme vaste"But NP`s comment was not about the city centre as a whole, it may not do anything for you but does not mean its not thriving - The amount of people through its doors and attraction of the big retailers proves it is.
Granted the introduction of TW was the last nail in the coffin for the Ridings centre but it was on it`s way out anyway. As a whole there is no denying Trinity Walk attracts more visitors to Wakefield.
FWIW it is not for me either, I am gutted there is no longer the market in the city which leaves me going to Huddersfield on a Saturday morning.'"
Why the Ridings got rid of the food court down at the bottom and filled in the first-floor balcony I'll never know. That along with when Trinity opened a fair number of businesses went up there, has left it struggling.
As for the City , with the obvious advent of people preferring to use online stores being the biggest hit on bricks and mortar shops. Plus in Wakefield, we have places just out of the with free parking, like along Ings road where Sainsbury's is and the Ings road retails park, plus to some extent, the new one near the 41 Ind. Estate. Add all the above to some questionable decisions from the Council over the years as a whole, is maybe a reason why Kirkgate being run down as well. Which will hopefully get sorted, as they are meant to be doing it up in stages> It just needs some real investment in the old Cinema area.
The above has changed Wakefield no end from say the 80's & 90's.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"The City Centre is not thriving.
Trinity walk looks good and is generally pretty busy BUT, it killed the Ridings / Cathederal side of the city stone dead.
The Council then made a right royal mess of the outdoor and indoor market, trying to turn it into something that it never was and was never going to be and so we now have a "white elephant shopping centre and market stallls littered up and down the precinct and these are the idiots who we are hoping can sort out the community stadium.
Dont mention the fountain which is just embarrassing [uand the old Pinderfields [/uand Clayton hospital sites, which have been in decay for far too many years." P1$$ up in a brewery" and "couldn't organise" spring to mind.
Wakefield used to be a decent town centre but, there is no cohesive planning around the area.
We have the Hepworth which is an excellent gallery but, at a substantial cost and the new West Yorkshire History Centre which look great but, at what cost to the ratepayers of the city ??'"
Definitely agree about the Clayton site but I'm not sure where you get that about Pinderfields, where is it in decay? Stanley Royd all got converted into a housing estate (which they're still extending atm) and they built a new Pinderfields and new Eye Clinic with a huge car park on the site. There literally is no spare land or anything in decay at Pinderfields.
You can't have been in past in a fair few years WC.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"This was my point, I was talking solely about Trinity Walk not the City Centre as the original comments from Nosey Parker were.
Agree with the rest of your post - The most frustrating for me has to be spending £5 mil on a nice new shiny market hall that has been a complete failure right from the very off and now a few years later [uthey are tearing it down to build a cinema[/u!'"
That literally is one of the craziest things this lot in charge have done to this City and that's saying something. It's not like we haven't got a perfectly good Multiplex just down the road that's perfectly adequate for a City of our size.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"This was my point, I was talking solely about Trinity Walk not the City Centre as the original comments from Nosey Parker were.
Agree with the rest of your post - The most frustrating for me has to be spending £5 mil on a nice new shiny market hall that has been a complete failure right from the very off and now a few years later they are tearing it down to build a cinema!'"
Referring to a previous post from you there is one empty unit on Trinity Walk with another one shortly, Timpsons are relicating their shop.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"That literally is one of the craziest things this lot in charge have done to this City Centre and that's saying something. It's not like we haven't got a perfectly good Multiplex just down the road that's perfectly adequate for a City of our size.'"
There’s some good things happening to the City Centre. The way we use City centres are changing it’s becoming more leisure/shopping mix not just 9-5, the way we shop has changed and the City Centre needs to change with it. Trinity Walk is a massive success, Northgate is becoming a pleasant night out with all the restaurants and a cinema will compliment that part of town. Merchant gateway is getting there and decent bars popping up all over the City Centre. The new market Hall was a disaster and losing BHS has affected the precinct with lots of closed shops but you’ll see the same in most City/town Centres. Watching the mighty Trin at the new community stadium on Balne Lane then short walk to a nice eatery on Northgate what a perfect leisure time experience. The council has held this City back and the way they’ve handled the community stadium is disgusting but the City Centre is a lot better than it was.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"But NP`s comment was not about the city centre as a whole, it may not do anything for you but does not mean its not thriving - The amount of people through its doors and attraction of the big retailers proves it is.
Granted the introduction of TW was the last nail in the coffin for the Ridings centre but it was on it`s way out anyway. As a whole there is no denying Trinity Walk attracts more visitors to Wakefield.
FWIW it is not for me either, I am gutted there is no longer the market in the city which leaves me going to Huddersfield on a Saturday morning.'"
Go a bit further to Bury mate they have a cracking market!
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| What does it say in League Weekly about stadium? Anything we didn’t know?
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| It more or less confirmed that Nosey Parker had been reading this forum.
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| Quote ="Wakefield City"There’s some good things happening to the City Centre. The way we use City centres are changing it’s becoming more leisure/shopping mix not just 9-5, the way we shop has changed and the City Centre needs to change with it. Trinity Walk is a massive success, Northgate is becoming a pleasant night out with all the restaurants and a cinema will compliment that part of town. Merchant gateway is getting there and decent bars popping up all over the City Centre. The new market Hall was a disaster and losing BHS has affected the precinct with lots of closed shops but you’ll see the same in most City/town Centres. Watching the mighty Trin at the new community stadium on Balne Lane then short walk to a nice eatery on Northgate what a perfect leisure time experience. The council has held this City back and the way they’ve handled the community stadium is disgusting but the City Centre is a lot better than it was.'"
No doubt about that City's like ours and lots of others have and are changing, they've had to, to move with the times or they simply get left behind. Like certain parts of ours have done to some extent.
In Wakefield, there is actually some cracking restaurants now, where at one time there was nothing really. So you're right, nowadays it's about getting the right mix of restaurants/pubs/coffee shops etc and retail outlets, that want to make people get off the internet and enjoy their City.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"It more or less confirmed that Nosey Parker had been reading this forum.'"
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"Haha Just where exactly is Wakefield shopping 'Centre' I wander. Perhaps it's the precinct 'market' he refers to!
'Thriving' was an apt adjective years ago, before the council slowly dismantled it.'"
Wakefield's shopping centre is 10miles up the road, Trinity, in Leeds!!!!
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| Quote ="victarmeldrew"wonder how mc meeting with manny went today'"
Hadn't heard he had a meeting.
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| I was in Exeter in Devon last Friday, a city of similar size to Wakefield. The centre was absolutely teeming. All the big name shops and stores plus hundreds of small independant outlets. Admittedly the nearest large town (Plymouth) is about 35 miles away, but to see such a thriving area makes me all the more despondent when I see what legacy we are left with in Wakefield.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"That literally is one of the craziest things this lot in charge have done to this City Centre and that's saying something. It's not like we haven't got a perfectly good Multiplex just down the road that's perfectly adequate for a City of our size.'"
I actually think that the Market site would be good for a cinema, with all the restaurants and bars around there but it will do to Cineworld what Trinity Walk has done to the Ridings. We will get a new cinema and the old one will end up being another white elephant.
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| Quote ="Fordy"I actually think that the Market site would be good for a cinema, with all the restaurants and bars around there but it will do to Cineworld what Trinity Walk has done to the Ridings. We will get a new cinema and the old one will end up being another white elephant.'"
That's my thought as well. We've made this sort of mistake before so why do it again. Like you say if there wasn't one it would be a good place. Then again knocking the old one down and building a new one there would be as well, seeing as it's the biggest eyesore in the City and would do a lot for that area of town. It may encourage more upmarket shops down Kirkgate as well & revitalise the area.
I don't know if it's being printed anywhere but who's funding it, because I'd be surprised if the private sector would risk the money with the Multiplex about 1/2 a mile away. That's in a free parking retail area, with every fast food place goingnext to it and a couple of 'restaurants' and it's not as if you can't fall out and be in a pub in 2 minutes.
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| Quote ="victarmeldrew"wonder how mc meeting with manny went today'"
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"That's my thought as well. We've made this sort of mistake before so why do it again. Like you say if there wasn't one it would be a good place. Then again knocking the old one down and building a new one there would be as well, seeing as it's the biggest eyesore in the City Centre and would do a lot for that area of town. It may encourage more upmarket shops down Kirkgate as well & revitalise the area.
I don't know if it's being printed anywhere but who's funding it, because I'd be surprised if the private sector would risk the money with the Multiplex about 1/2 a mile away. That's in a free parking retail area, with every fast food place goingnext to it and a couple of 'restaurants' and it's not as if you can't fall out and be in a pub in 2 minutes.'"
Forget the cinema. What about a bowling alley on the site of the old market utilising the existing cinema, more or less. Cineworld could carry on as normal and a much missed facility in Wakefield could be restored. Bowling is big business in Barnsley. No reason why it shouldn't be here.
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| Previous post should read "utilising the existing building.........."
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| Quote ="Redscat"Previous post should read "utilising the existing building.........."'"
Now that's not a bad idea, used to like going bowling and having a few drinks. I know quite a few have to travel to get a game in nowadays. The old one used to have 2 floors and god knows how many lanes, something smaller would do business in the town IMO.
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| Bowling alley with a pool hall would be good in that spot.
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| Quote ="Redscat"I was in Exeter in Devon last Friday, a city of similar size to Wakefield. The centre was absolutely teeming. All the big name shops and stores plus hundreds of small independant outlets. Admittedly the nearest large town (Plymouth) is about 35 miles away, but to see such a thriving area makes me all the more despondent when I see what legacy we are left with in Wakefield.'" I think you'll find both Devon and Cornwall being similar where they have thriving cities due to the locations, we've just come back from Devon to and was 15 mins to a local town but to get to a descent shopping area took 45 mins drive so they are bound to be thriving if you want cheaper goods
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