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| Quote ="chissitt"Wasn't his Mrs the highest paid at the club teaching the dance troop?'"
Yes, Sarah (Robinson) Elston
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"Totally agree with this, I don’t know MC, I’m just fairly grateful that without him we would be no more. The bloke cuts the cloth accordingly and got us out of a big stinking dung heap which Glover left us in with his Razzmatazz BS. I don’t think we have recruited well this year, I didn’t make judgment in preseason as any player we sign deserves a clean slate and opportunity to showcase what they can do, but we’re pretty much 1/4 through the season and from what most have seen it’s simply not good enough. I just hope we can put these 2 abysmal defeats behind us and really compete with Hull Kr.'"
Agree not a lot W Poaching could do about this year's signings.Let's wait till next year to see what W Poaching does with the full amount of cash for players .Think he will be after younger player's
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| Would Like to think that poaching is still held in high regard in the RL world more so than mr Chester who was only ever British based , and may help him in player recruiting especially overseas where as I found with the H podcast with Arona who signed for us not knowing basically anything about us ( which may be a blessing) and he’s turned out to be a solid import for us . Poaching still has friends /family over seas and would like to think he can coax some quality to join us in the coming seasons , to enhance and nurture our rapidly growing homegrown talent .
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| It's not so much about the money available it's more to do with retention and recruitment.
I'm sure a few players are off contract and reasonable earners at that.
It will be interesting just who remains at the club and who moves on or even retire.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"It's not so much about the money available it's more to do with retention and recruitment.
[uI'm sure a few players are off contract and reasonable earners at that[/u.
It will be interesting just who remains at the club and who moves on or even retire.'"
There in lies the problem, if we want to keep some of them the club will have to dig deep to keep them, which in turn will take a fair chunk out of the recruitment budget, difficult to balance
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| The bigger problem short term regarding signings later down the line is getting back to winning ways and performances. Without these the crowds will dwindle, the money available will be less and so will the quality we can not only buy but attract , no matter how nice our new stadium looks . Sorting this seasons players into a battle hardened fighting force with some resemblance of consistency is paramount to the club moving forwards on all fronts .No good having a 350 seater or whatever it is hospitality suite and no one in spending their money .Us die hard will always be here , but it’s the newbies and stay aways we desperately need to come ,and the only way is get a team fit for purpose ,not winning every game but being competitive and making the match day experience something you want to come back to and see again and again .
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| Our problem is we run a club & support this great club by the " Bottom Line ". Who we get has to fit the bottom line our owner says we have no sugar daddy, but we are in the black, this all equals constant survival, will we slip up one day, who knows, but, law of averages says we will one day, unless some one comes in with more money for more/better players.
It hurts to realalise all this but that's the facts, + we are a small city & therefore we operate on a smaller gate = receipts.
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| Classy Cas don’t have any problems filling their ground and they have a far smaller catchment area than us .Love them or loathe them they seem to have got the product right on the field and are selling a great match day experience that people are willing to pay £22 for without any problems . No disrespect to the town of Castleford or the people but it’s glory days went when the mines closed so IMO it most certainly won’t be the most affluent town around the RL circuit , yet it’s packet to the gunnels most games .
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| Thing about Cas is most of their support comes from outside the Castleford area. I have friends who live in York and Selby who watch them and I know a lot of people in the East /North East of Wakefield go down to Wheldon Road.
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Classy Cas don’t have any problems filling their ground and they have a far smaller catchment area than us .Love them or loathe them they seem to have got the product right on the field and are selling a great match day experience that people are willing to pay £22 for without any problems . No disrespect to the town of Castleford or the people but it’s glory days went when the mines closed so IMO it most certainly won’t be the most affluent town around the RL circuit , yet it’s packet to the gunnels most games .'"
Winning the league, getting to SL and challenge cup finals in recent seasons gets crowds. If we were doing that we’d be getting a lot bigger attendances. We’re averaging 5k not won anything since 1968 play in a poor stadium and have a habit of putting in performances like last weeks. We do well to get what we get,many so called big clubs would struggle in them circumstances. Once new stand goes up and keep building the club/team crowds will increase.
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| Quote ="Wakefield City"Winning the league, getting to SL and challenge cup finals in recent seasons gets crowds. If we were doing that we’d be getting a lot bigger attendances. We’re averaging 5k =#FF0000not won [size=150anything [/sizesince 1968 play in a poor stadium and have a habit of putting in performances like last weeks. We do well to get what we get,many so called big clubs would struggle in them circumstances. Once new stand goes up and keep building the club/team crowds will increase.
Up the Trin'"
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| So the solution s simple, build new stand and ground and people will flood in.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"So the solution s simple, build new stand and ground and people will flood in.
Get real'"
I think the first priority and expectation is that the upgraded facilities increases income. It may attract a few more???
Crowds will only increase if that then produces a winning side.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"So the solution s simple, build new stand and ground and people will flood in.
Get real'"
Got to laugh at you telling people to get real.
You are a prime example of someone who simply refuses to learn from history.
You cannot generally buy your way to success and on the rare occasions that works nobody has ever sustained it - see Bradford Bulls.
The only way to become a truly successful club is to build from the bottom up. Painstakingly putting systems and processes in place. This is made doubly difficult if you don’t have a pot of money. It’s agonisingly slow as all things especially young players take time.
You are making the classic error of confusing an underperforming team with the club. I know 100% as anyone with half a brain that the club is in the best shape it’s probably ever been,
However all the things that will allow the club to finance a better team are not truly on tap, most notably the East stand.
Get real. We cannot run until we’ve actually grown some legs and luckily that’s not far off.
I to an furious at the moment but with the players not the club. The club has bent over backwards to give thirty blokes a chance, some of them a third or fourth chance. These players in the last two weeks have simply not paid there debt. They are the ones at fault, not the club. I’m absolutely certain that when they were begging the club to sign them none mentioned that they would only play well for one in every three games.
We have at least 20 players who would fancy their chances to get another SL gig. Let’s not pursue this myth that our team is full of rejects because it isn’t. It’s full of underperformers at the moment who need to have a good hard look at themselves!
However if it bothers you that much please do the following.
1. Sell your house.
2. Cash in your pension.
3. Write a cheque for the full amount and post to Michael Carter care of Wakefield Trinity.
4. Stop working and work 60 hours a week for the club for free.
Once you’ve done this I look forward to a massive upturn in our infield performances.
Thanks
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| Sorry Vasty I nodded off after line 3.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Sorry Vasty I nodded off after line 3.
For someone taking a break you don't half go on.'"
It's not that is it. You read it alright and you have no answer.
People like you don't like the facts, the truth tends to blow you out of the water.
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| Is there anything you don't know abou give it a rest.
Like I have said in the past you attempt to start arguments with many posters. Name calling seems to be your favourite pass time, and before you say it isn't take a look at your posts.
You boring and to be honest your scants don't deserve a reply.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"So the solution s simple, build new stand and ground and people will flood in.
Get real'" I don't think they will flood in but for sure it will increase due to the newness of the stadium
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| Quote ="snowie"you need to check your history pal'"
I’m talking major trophies, not Yorkshire cup or 2nd division champions.
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| Quote ="Wakefield City"I’m talking major trophies, not Yorkshire cup or 2nd division champions.
Up the Trin'"
Wigan and Saints never won the Yorkshire Cup if that helps
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| At the start of this season I would have happily excepted a 11th 10th place at best finish and hopefully SL survival providing the rich clubs don’t get their way with a reduction to 10 clubs.
6 points from the opening 8 games to be honest is 2 more than I expected.
The player recruitment has been very poor Gaskell Lineham Hood Whitbread Adebiyi Minns a combination of past their sell by date and panic signings to make up the numbers.
Added to this the club have hung onto the likes of Tupou Arona Ashurst for at least 2 seasons too long maybe 3
Having said this providing SL status is retained I do see a brighter future providing the likes of Batchelor Bowes Kershaw Croft Walker Bowes Murphy Hall stay with the other senior players.
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"At the start of this season I would have happily excepted a 11th 10th place at best finish and hopefully SL survival providing the rich clubs don’t get their way with a reduction to 10 clubs.
6 points from the opening 8 games to be honest is 2 more than I expected.
[uThe player recruitment has been very poor Gaskell Lineham Hood Whitbread Adebiyi Minns a combination of past their sell by date and panic signings to make up the numbers.[/u
Added to this the club have hung onto the likes of Tupou Arona Ashurst for at least 2 seasons too long maybe 3
Having said this providing SL status is retained I do see a brighter future providing the likes of Batchelor Bowes Kershaw Croft Walker Bowes Murphy Hall stay with the other senior players.'"
Maybe there's a reason the club bought those players, supposing there were not the players available that the club wanted for the money the club had to spend, and just because you and a few more on here think in your opinion the recruitment was poor does not mean that in the clubs opinion they were in, they held the same thoughts as you that they were past they're sell by date or were desperate to make up the numbers with panic buys.
At least then it's good the clubs doing something right in giving these youngsters a chance eh.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Is there anything you don't know abou give it a rest.
Like I have said in the past you attempt to start arguments with many posters. Name calling seems to be your favourite pass time, and before you say it isn't take a look at your posts.
You boring and to be honest your scants don't deserve a reply.'"
You started the debate regarding the club's ambitions - get real
I've not called you any names - get real
Boring - subjective opinion from you.
Deserve a reply? - read I have not got a worthwhile reply.
Like a few others, if you can't debate the issues you comment on then leave the room. Stop crying foul every time somebody refuses to go along with you - in other words, get real.
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| Quote ="vastman"You started the debate regarding the club's ambitions - get real
I've not called you any names - get real
Boring - subjective opinion from you.
Deserve a reply? - read I have not got a worthwhile reply.
Like a few others, if you can't debate the issues you comment on then leave the room. Stop crying foul every time somebody refuses to go along with you - in other words, get real.'"
Lampy vastman halo has slipped again, ahhhhh
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| Then each of you put the other on ignore.
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