We've been that for about 4 years but relied on individual off the cuff brilliance to get results. Johnstone, Tupou, Fifita and even Hampshire aren't bailing you out at present.

He's had his chance to turn it around. He failed. We lost badly to the team everyone is tipping for relegation. If he doesn't go now, it'll be us who are relegated.

Frustrating following a loss and poor performance. Similar to last season really. But we got our act together to go 3rd and after London no one would have thought that. We're always going to have some knee jerk fans and some positive whatever fans. It's just in different people's makeup.
There'll be some bum kickings and changes for Catalan and we go again.

I got shot down when I was on about the signings we were making in close season ,and the coaching . Think last night proved my point .

People just debated with you, dont be such a snowflake.

I must say legend, I was scratching my head with some, and even some contract renewals.

Prepared to give them a chance in the red, white and blue, but yes, last night did prove a point.

I also thought that teams that finished around us in the league have done better recruitment in the off season than us.

Now, with the Brough situation, I think we may need to review our thoughts on bringing in another forward, long term at least, though not just anyone, a proper organising half, the question is though, are there any available. I know we have Rocky, but hes covering full back too.

Jowett and Walker can cover fullback between them. Hampshire sees himself as a half and now has an opportunity to show everyone he's good enough to take it.

Personally I thought Westerman was our best player.

He might but I don't. I actually think Jowitt looked better in the halves against Huddersfield than Hampshire has.
Just my opinion and I know it will no doubt upset lots of folk but I think Rocky still has a long way to go to establish himself as a quality half back.

One game in and people already having a meltdown

Let's face it, not as bad as last seasons opener and we were sitting in 2nd/3rd at the half way point until an avalanche of injuries hit. Yes it's concerning, but I think people would've kicked off and baying for Chessies blood even if we scraped a win or lost by 2 points. All this negativity on social media by our own fans can't have a positive effect on the team or confidence, but hope we get a better reaction from them next week and start to build some momentum while we start getting some bodies back.

Bodies back ? We had 4 players out that would have been in the Starting 17 , of the ones due back next week couldn’t see arona making much difference to that - our inability to number up on the line was shocking - thought Atkins had joined the Boy Scouts to operate a semaphore - he was shouting and calling whenever we were defending that right side yet was constantly exposed - despite that being our first choice back line and back 3

The appalling number of mistakes Chester said 16 put us under the pump and took the juice. Add to that the stupid niggly penalties we seem to keep giving away killed us. At 10-6 at half time I thought we would win in the conditions sadly not. Rivers made a few mistakes but nothing like us. You cannot win a game giving so much territory away. Some players need to smarten up and cut out the penalties!

I was hoping Walker would be our answer to the defense.
Neither Jowitt nor Hampshire manage the line well.

TJ was surprisingly raw. Hasn't played in a long time.
I felt like Atkins was quite destructive when he took the ball up but didn't actually get a single pass for him to test the winger.

Tupou wasn't bad but has some work to do. Needs ball also.
Looks like Atkins will be in centre next time anyway.
I guess Kershaw will be tested too.

I actually think we’ve got a really good squad and when I look at other teams around the mid to lower table there aren’t many players I’d be swapping our lads for.
Unfortunately for the last 18-24 months we have looked utterly clueless in attack, aside from individual moments of brilliance. Coupled to the fact that our goal line defence has been flawed for years out wide, means we aren’t winning many rugby matches. For me both of these things come down to tactics and that I fear is why we’re doomed to scrappy dog fights under Chester. Given the players at his disposal our attack should be feared throughout the league.

I'm not one for bagging coaches particularly as it's only the first game of the season. But........We need a clear out, we're starting this season in identical fashion to how last season panned out. In cat terms we've now used all our nine lives, we can't be playing another million pound game or languishing at the foot of the table.

The difference between the london game of last year and this was we had a relatively low injury count to start and lost this year we are carrying injured players already and players like tj and ashurst just coming back from long term ones and wont want to fully test themselves for fear of injury again its a simple fact we need to go on a winning run now or else we are serious relegation prospects just font see how carrying injuries weve got now

We're at our best when we get good early ball out to our dangerous players so they can expose their opposite number one on one. However, our half backs and middle men move the ball so slow that this rarely happens. Even the try we scored the pass was about 2 foot above Westerman's head - he did extremely well to keep hold of it. Attacking structure is still far too flat for me and not enough players running off the ball to drag defenders about. Take the errors out of the equation and the penalties and think about how long the coaching staff have had with these players to create a good attacking structure. It's been about 2 years now. These players as individuals are good players and Michael Carter has done excellently assembling the squad but it's no good if you can't get them working as a unit after such a long period of time.

Me too PT, and Josh Wood wasn't far behind him....didn't really notice Pitts or Navarette so they can't have done too much wrong either and can't decide if Atkins was at fault for Crooks' 4 tries, or was it a case of the defence not sliding across to help the winger, as usual ??

I felt Atkins was under pressure every time.
He was shouting for the slide two plays before the scored.
It was hard to tell but I think it was Brough being out of position and Pitts trying to cover.
Once Lyne went off it was like Zulu he was so outnumbered.

Put a smile on my face that pop tart, likening HKR to Zulu’s storming the barricades

We said the same PT on westerman
Tanginoa played well too

They were the only positives from last night

Hmm with reference to this thread there's an interesting interview with Chester in the Wakefield express.I recommend you read it , I have and reading between the lines and after last night's result, I think he's feeling the pressure. Heas on about switching off a spending more time with his family?.

That happened right in front of us

I’m not sure in the second half but I don’t believe Atkins was to blame, certainly not in the first half

He was out numbered 3 to 1 with about 15 yards of our try line cover
You could see that first try coming in the play before
Brough was involved in the tackle and did get back in the defensive line but any one of three wakey players should have plugged that gap for him imo, Atkins was screaming to cover the line

I don’t get why we have so many issues with our sliding defence out wide
It was the same last year

Hull ran the same play again 5 mins later although our cover tackling was excellent
Reece saw what as coming and was absolutely screaming at brough and Pitts to move out

They both ignored him though and didn’t move

Perhaps we have communication issues between our centres and back rows?

Fifita got injured half way through last season ,he carried on playing and got so injured he had to stop playing .Green and the lad from Halifax cam in we played well with out Fifita problem solved.The team last night was full of new signings that Chester said make us stronger when the injuries hit .All I saw was a dad,s army on the field .We lost to a team that were supposed to finish bottom that were better drilled in the basic rules of rugby

Exactly the basics of rugby league. The conditions called for 5 drives and a low kick every time. We couldn't even get to a kick. Yesterday was exactly the same performance as we've had since June 2019. Too slow and predictable, with no defensive resilience.