Hard to call - they've looked rudderless and soft - then all of a sudden, they play with freedom against Catalans and rack up a cricket score; so I guess it depends which Leeds turn up.

Ded help Leeds that they removed Catalans key man from the game. they are rather good at that, look at poor old David Fifita last year after JJB's Oscar winning performance.

I actually agree with you about Miller. I do sometimes think he's built up to a better player than he actually is. I'm not disputing that he's won some games for us, but I do think it's difficult for anyone to create a partnership with him due to his style. Either way, you've a better chance of winning games if your best players have more of the ball so we need to get it out to Johnstone a lot more than we do.

As for Moore, he could have been the missing link in this side. With the pack we've got he could have set a great platform for us to play. Add Wood off the bench and I'd have been much more confident of a top spot.

I fancy us in this one.
Up the Trin

If your referring to Singleton on Bird, Bird played on and went off later with a broken thumb.

Yeah, we're missing Scott Moore and the England of last season, I think those two are bigger factors overall than any of Millers shortcomings.

Didn't like it at the time, and don't like it now every time I watch Cas, but we never replaced McShane like for like neither.

"Never replaced McShane"

Good he was fat and lazy for us. Lazy kicking game. Like many other players he's benefited from Powell's turd polisher.

Agreed. Kyle Wood is playing better for us than McShane did. I still have nightmares about all those forward passes he'd throw from dummy half.

So.....you're saying I was disappointed when he left......for nothing!

damn

Given +10 start at most bookies, that's got to be worth a little dabble as we've not lost by more than 8 yet I think. Hopefully we get a win though to take some confidence (and points) into the next home game. I think the next three or four games are certainly ours to lose

Just looked at highlights from last league meeting at Belle Vue and their best player on the pitch that day was the referee...he was ridiculous with the harsh and uncalled for penalties..JJB should have got a yellow for trying to knock Fifita's head off which is what big Dave was responding to.....



Hopefully a level playing field tonight and Trinity have played well so far in appalling wet muddy conditions...it may be more of the same that is required.

Up the Trin

Yes, wind, rain and mud will help us more than Leeds (I hope).
Our pack has been solid this season and is we can prevent Cuthbertson's offload game, we should be ok

Bloody hell have we ever beaten Wakefield when it wasn't because of the referee?

1968 I think. Even we couldn't blame the ref for that one.

Come to think of it wasn't there some dodgy decision earlier in the game lol

You're kidding, go watch the Leeds try scored immediately before Ken Hirsts kick through and score.

If ever there was a referee manufactured try that's it!

Last tackle play has been shocking so FAR

Game over thanks to a stupid error

Too many penalties, too many mistakes. Got the wind in the second half though.

The number of tries we concede off the back of unforced errors is phenomenal. Got some work to do second half now.

FFS miller and that crash ball

Got up early to watch this.... I'm disappointed!
We are being dominated by a workman like team who are putting the effort and smarts In When we are not.

We drive in the ball and are getting smashed and pushed back... no one from Trinity is hoping the ball carrier... Leeds drive in and when we get less than 3 in the tackle Leeds fight to get up and play the ball wuickly. When we get three and four in the tackle the Leeds player with the ball is still dominating, making 5 and 10 meters each drive.. the tacklers are leaving the wrestle to each other...


So disappointing

Hope we turn it round in the second half!

And this is Leeds FFS not exactly Cas or Wigan is it

Walker was in no way prepared to catch that ball!!! His hands were by his side... not even a convincing dummy runner!

Walker was in no way prepared to catch that ball!!! His hands were by his side... not even a convincing dummy runner!

That first 15 minutes of defending is costing us. No juice in the tank, hence the penalties.