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| Totally agree Avenger, he gets my goat every time (the OP) when he jumps in with his big size 11's. There is no need to bag anyone in that manner let alone when you've got all your facts wrong in the first place. I mean, if you don't know the guy's name and you're a supposed 'supporter' of the team then you're gonna be clueless when it comes down to airing your views. I'm all for free speech and all that but personal abuse gets me where I just have to respond.
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| He's been proved wrong.
Let's wait for the apology and retraction.
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| There's some fickle folk on here. Scruton has two decent games and they start blowing smoke up his . He's been e for the previous 30. He wasn't even that good against Huddersfield - probably the worst forward on the pitch (simon, england and hudds forwards were all better). Today however, he was much much much better than any point in the last 30 times I've seen him.
One swallow doesn't make a summer.
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| Scruton was very good today, worked hard and put in big minutes. I think he is playing better because a out and out hooker in Moore is leading him onto the ball.
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| Although only 2 games into Chester's reign, Scrutton appears to have been unleashed on the opposition.
Certainly his best 2 games for Trinity and he appears to be working much harder for the new gaffer.
Really impressed on Friday and again today, in both attack and defence.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"There's some fickle folk on here. Scruton has two decent games and they start blowing smoke up his booty. He's been poop for the previous 30. He wasn't even that good against Huddersfield - probably the worst forward on the pitch (simon, england and hudds forwards were all better). Today however, he was much much much better than any point in the last 30 times I've seen him.
One swallow doesn't make a summer.'"
Pathetic post on today of all days. He isn't explosive like Simon but he puts the hard graft in down the middle where it is not as obvious to the casual observer. He tackles well and he has the respect of all his team-mates. Don't tell me, you'd rather have Anakin running in at full pelt, missing tackles and giving penalties away?
Get a grip.
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| Vintage Scruton today. Nothing fancy, took the ball in well and stood up to the big Leeds forwards.
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| Quote ="Red, White and Blue"Pathetic post on today of all days. He isn't explosive like Simon but he puts the hard graft in down the middle where it is not as obvious to the casual observer. He tackles well and he has the respect of all his team-mates. Don't tell me, you'd rather have Anakin running in at full pelt, missing tackles and giving penalties away?
Get a grip.'"
No it isn't. Scruton has been poor for a season and gets singled out for praise cos he has one decent game. He's built like a train and trundles it in like my grandma. Thus losing the wrestle and slowing the ptb down.
I'll post my opinion on any day I feel like thank you very much.
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| 'Scrutton' (sic) only sings when we are winning does he?
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"No it isn't. Scruton has been mickey poor for a season and gets singled out for praise cos he has one decent game. He's built like a train and trundles it in like my grandma. Thus losing the wrestle and slowing the ptb down.
I'll post my opinion on any day I feel like thank you very much.'"
You do 'agree' with NGB4C a lot. You sure you aren't his alter ego?
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| Maybe Chester is using Scruton how he should be used.
As has been mentioned, Scruton is a long minutes, one paced prop, who, if you leave him alone he will get on with the job.
When he is getting subbed after 20 mins, he is probably getting his second wind.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"
I'll post my opinion on any day I feel like thank you very much.'"
Quite happy for you to post thanks, it just allows me to counter your views with common sense HTH.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"You do 'agree' with NGB4C a lot. You sure you aren't his alter ego?
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I do to be honest. Despite said user's obvious over-exaggerations when making a lot of points I do agree with quite a few of his comments on some players. Not all. Not sure what makes that a bad thing.
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| Quote ="Red, White and Blue"Quite happy for you to post thanks, it just allows me to counter your views with common sense HTH.'"
I haven't argued a single point about Scruton's defence, so what you're countering I have no idea. What I was talking about is how he carries the ball and how it slows us down.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"I haven't argued a single point about Scruton's defence, so what you're countering I have no idea. What I was talking about is how he carries the ball and how it slows us down.'"
I'm countering your criticism by emphasising his defensive contribution. Keep up, it's not that difficult.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"I haven't argued a single point about Scruton's defence, so what you're countering I have no idea. What I was talking about is how he carries the ball and how it slows us down.'"
You're comparing him with a version of himself that's never existed; he's not agile, quick or explosive - but he is steady, attritional and has good stamina.
That said, I do agree that his form of late hasn't been great - hopefully this purple patch will continue.
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| A lack of form could be levelled at many of the team this season so why is it necessary to pick out just Scruton. I would say that all the squad's performances have improved so once again why pick out Scruton.
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| Maybe because the OP is a complete imbecile?
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| Quote ="Red, White and Blue"I'm countering your criticism by emphasising his defensive contribution. Keep up, it's not that difficult.'"
You've made up what I am arguing in your own head. I expect every player to make a defensive contribution. Scruton tackles fairly well. As do 90% of pro rugby players. His attack with ball in hand however leaves a lot to desired. Last I'll say on the matter.
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| Quote ="bren2k"You're comparing him with a version of himself that's never existed; he's not agile, quick or explosive - but he is steady, attritional and has good stamina.
That said, I do agree that his form of late hasn't been great - hopefully this purple patch will continue.'"
I'm not because I know he isn't quick. But he doesn't beak out of a stroll and gets dominated far too much in the tackle. He's a prop froward and needs to get us on the front foot with the ball. Not sure why this gets shot down. He (and some other olayers) have failed to do this all too often.
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| Admitted, even though I am not his biggest fan, he has played well in the last two games.
However, he had been garbage this year up to then.
He keeps his place in the team for now, but has to keep this intensity up.
Hopefully if Anderson gets back in, he can also up his performances a notch or too.
These last two wins have been built by all the forwards been dominant in the collision
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"You've made up what I am arguing in your own head. I expect every player to make a defensive contribution. Scruton tackles fairly well. As do 90% of pro rugby players. His attack with ball in hand however leaves a lot to desired. Last I'll say on the matter.'"
Thank Christ for that.
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| Players like Scruton suffer under the current conditions, where most teams are smothering the ball carrier in defence with 3 or 4 tacklers, and slowing the ptb down to snails pace; so a quick ptb is virtually impossible these days, especially from a prop forward. I'm on the record several times over bemoaning this type of organised cheating, but there seems to be no will from the RFL to do anything about it - referees continue to allow it to happen, so more and more teams push the boundaries.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"I'm not because I know he isn't quick. But he doesn't beak out of a stroll and gets dominated far too much in the tackle. He's a prop froward and needs to get us on the front foot with the ball. Not sure why this gets shot down. He (and some other olayers) have failed to do this all too often.'"
Only people like you and NGBC can take two brilliant victories and still feel the need to find someone to scapegoat - I mean seriously lads, what's wrong with you?
Chester hasn't got a magic wand and as sure as night follows day we will hit the wall - later rather than sooner I hope. So what I'm suggesting is why not save your venom till then, you'll be able to have a feeding frenzy I'm sure but in the meantime let the rest of us enjoy the moment. Thanks
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| Quote ="vastman"Only people like you and NGBC can take two brilliant victories and still feel the need to find someone to scapegoat - I mean seriously lads, what's wrong with you?
Chester hasn't got a magic wand and as sure as night follows day we will hit the wall - later rather than sooner I hope. So what I'm suggesting is why not save your venom till then, you'll be able to have a feeding frenzy I'm sure but in the meantime let the rest of us enjoy the moment. Thanks
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