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| I think, if the club were to start discussions this would be a huge confidence boost to Smith, show him that he is wanted and we may see even more from him than over the last few weeks.
It would also make a statement of our intent to other SL clubs, that we have quality players and we will do what is possible to keep them here.
Its a WIN/WIN situation.
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| Broughy was seen down at the club last Wednesday for whatever reason, its surprising it has not been mentioned on here before now, I thought the OP knew something nobody else did, but apparently not unless he is just teasing us, If you know something why not share it with us all
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| Not going to happen , Broughy has singned a 5yr deal to stay at shudds
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| Quote ="mole rat"Not going to happen , Broughy has singned a 5yr deal to stay at shudds'"
Hadn't Kevin Brown signed a long contract too??
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| Quote ="Wildcatfan"Smithy will be staying...........'"
Hope you are right.
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| Whilst aware of Broughs undeniable class I haven’t forgotten the way he left Wakefield, his berating of young kids & an abject performance against Huddersfield.
If only we could get Benny Westwood & Gaz Ellis back, blah, blah.
It’s time to move on, look to the future, hopefully in a new facility, where I pray the fans don’t chant Belle Vue, Belle Vue.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Whilst aware of Broughs undeniable class I haven’t forgotten the way he left Wakefield, his berating of young kids & an abject performance against Huddersfield.
If only we could get Benny Westwood & Gaz Ellis back, blah, blah.
It’s time to move on, look to the future, hopefully in a new facility, where I pray the fans don’t chant Belle Vue, Belle Vue.'"
It feels strange to say, but I think I agree - Broughy is yesterday's man in terms of WTW; we have to look to the future.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Whilst aware of Broughs undeniable class I haven’t forgotten the way he left Wakefield, his berating of young kids & an abject performance against Huddersfield.
If only we could get Benny Westwood & Gaz Ellis back, blah, blah.
It’s time to move on, look to the future, hopefully in a new facility, where I pray the fans don’t chant Belle Vue, Belle Vue.'"
Agbrigg! Agbrigg!
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| Quote ="kinleycat"I assume it is Agar in conversation with Peter Sharp, JKs successor at Hull, however if DB was as unpopular at Hull as this post makes out, why did JK sign him??'"
JK signed him for Hull, JK signed him for Wakey, when JK left Hull DB was not wanted. JK likes DB, the man who transitioned the coaching at Hull not so much. What is so hard to understand?
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| Quote ="bren2k"It feels strange to say, but I think I agree - Broughy is yesterday's man in terms of WTW; we have to look to the future.'"
I agree too.
Of course some players like Gareth Ellis or Ben Westwood have changed as players and if we got them they would just be class players being brought to the club. I'm pretty sure no one at the club now with the odd exception of part time workers, would have been at the club when they were here.
Whereas recent leavers like Brough or even Murphy and Fergi are gone now. They are Huddersfield players. I'd rather grow or search out new talent and create new players proud to play for Wakefield.
We've already seen this team grow and start to be proud of what they do. Just add to that base rather than try to recreate something that is lost.
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| Wouldnt want Brough back after the exit he made yes a talented player and did well for us but no thanks.Think we should be more interested in keeping Mathers,Sykes and Smith the way he and Sykes have hit it off.We should also be looking at a powerfull no nonsense prop as one never knows but lets keep quiet on that.
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| Quote ="1873"JK signed him for Hull, JK signed him for Wakey, when JK left Hull DB was not wanted. JK likes DB, the man who transitioned the coaching at Hull not so much. What is so hard to understand?'"
Well when you put it like that.................
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| Quote ="vastman"No shortage of H/Bs just a reluctance amongst coaches to give British ones a real chance. Your own clubs decision to waste Tomkins at FB when he is a HB - something you were saying 18 month ago.
Finch got a season to get it together, do British lads get the same?
Woods at our place has all the makings of a H/B but he just won't get the chance IMO.'"
Sam will move back to the halves this year at some point to allow us to rotate/rest players and give younger talent a chance. Sam has been a revelation at 1 though, to be fair you could play him anywhere and he would make an impact. Sam plays as a traditional 6 (ie second receiver acting as an extra half)
I am struggling to think of 1 top quality half prospect that is ready to step up.
Wigan have 2 young lads one a Wakefield lad who look the part, but they are both some way off first team rugby.
The 2 lads ahead of them who looked like world beaters at Academy level have struggled with first team rugby. Mellor looked top class but look anonymous at Widnes.
The next generation of British halves will come come from the ranks of the current 15's and 16's I see very few class prospects in the 18's and 20's in that position.
Gareth O'Brien at Wire looks as good as any who have made the recent step up and not looked out of his depth.
The way things are at the moment though anyone with the potential will get the chance as overseas recruits are less and less viable.
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| Quote ="1873"JK signed him for Hull, JK signed him for Wakey, when JK left Hull DB was not wanted. JK likes DB, the man who transitioned the coaching at Hull not so much. What is so hard to understand?'"
hard to understand because you said this:
Quote ="1873"The alleged story goes, when JK left Hull, "Peter, First job is to get rid of that poisonous little".. you get the rest.
I do not think RA is a fan.'"
Why would JK talk to Peter Gentle about Danny Brough? They were all at three completely different times.
If Jk had talked to Agar, who got rid, or Agar had talked to PG about someone else.....or even if JK had talked to someone else called Peter about Agar it would have made sense.
What you wrote does not.
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| I think he means peter sharp pop
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| Quote ="LG83"I think he means peter sharp pop'"
Oh I see. That does make it slightly more understandable
Though it still doesn't resolve why JK said he was so terrible and then promptly signed him.
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| Quote ="PopTart"hard to understand because you said this:
Why would JK talk to Peter Gentle about Danny Brough? They were all at three completely different times.
If Jk had talked to Agar, who got rid, or Agar had talked to PG about someone else.....or even if JK had talked to someone else called Peter about Agar it would have made sense.
What you wrote does not.'"
JK leaves Hull (not talking to anyone, peter or otherwise) - RA advises Peter SHARP when he takes over - RA allegedly tells PS to release DB
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| Quote ="1873"JK leaves Hull (not talking to anyone, peter or otherwise) - RA advises Peter SHARP when he takes over - RA allegedly tells PS to release DB'"
I missed the implied Agar talking in quotes when JK left. I get it now. As you were everybody. I've caught up.
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| Did Agar sign Brough for York? Who then took Brough to Hull when Agar was appointed assistant
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| Quote ="jonh"Sam will move back to the halves this year at some point to allow us to rotate/rest players and give younger talent a chance. Sam has been a revelation at 1 though, to be fair you could play him anywhere and he would make an impact. Sam plays as a traditional 6 (ie second receiver acting as an extra half)
I am struggling to think of 1 top quality half prospect that is ready to step up.
Wigan have 2 young lads one a Wakefield lad who look the part, but they are both some way off first team rugby.
The 2 lads ahead of them who looked like world beaters at Academy level have struggled with first team rugby. Mellor looked top class but look anonymous at Widnes.
The next generation of British halves will come come from the ranks of the current 15's and 16's I see very few class prospects in the 18's and 20's in that position.
Gareth O'Brien at Wire looks as good as any who have made the recent step up and not looked out of his depth.
The way things are at the moment though anyone with the potential will get the chance as overseas recruits are less and less viable.'"
But that's the point - it's just an opinion even if it's educated opinion, there is nearly always an element of doubt - it's simply that Aussies get the benefit of the doubt. I reckon there is at least 1 young HB per team on the edge - of those 2/3 will fail but that still leaves 4-5 - whom they are is anyones guess. The problem is that is's all hypertheticals until they get a run.
Wildie did OK for when he actually played HB last year but he wasn't SL quality. However with that year under his belt and close season he was probably ready to move up a notch. What happens, his place is taken by a young NZ player who is no better IMHO. So instead of getting a second season under his belt he's shipped off to Batley, wonderful. I wish I could blame Agar but they are all at it. It's a total blindspot in our game, HB's takr time and without P&R we now have that and we are wasting it.
Sickens me to be honest.
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| I'm amazed that NGBC has started a rumor that is currently onto it's sixth page!
I think Hudds have that many of our ex players that the inevitable is happening, they are starting to play like we did!
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| Quote ="vastman"Don't know if there is any truth in this, but coming from you I seriously doubt it.
Can I ask why you are utterly obsessed with players who have left or are never coming. Why not use your energy to support the players we have instead of endlessly bitching about them. For you the grass always seems greener on the other side - hence some of the truly ludicrous statements you make.
This weekend we saw your latest love interest Sam Moa owned by Andy Raleigh, a converted SR who will soon be able to draw a pension.
Broughs best years are behind him and IMHO we got the best of them - I'm gratefull for that but now we need to move on and find the next Broughy.'"
Utter rubbish your personal attacks are just nastyness! Who have I bitched about this year John = totally justified we have won 3 in 3 now moron. Sykes great ! Trout needs work = TRUE ! Shame we lost Aron Murphy wasn't too bothered about George. Praised many players this year including smith and Ralleigh. Ralleigh was great sunday. Sam moa played well also. Shut up with your tyraids of RUBBISH !
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Utter rubbish your personal attacks are just nastyness! Who have I bitched about this year John = totally justified we have won 3 in 3 now moron. Sykes great ! Trout needs work = TRUE ! Shame we lost Aron Murphy wasn't too bothered about George. Praised many players this year including smith and Ralleigh. Ralleigh was great sunday. Sam moa played well also. Shut up with your tyraids of RUBBISH !'"
You're a saint, what was I thinking
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| Would prefer us to resign Jeffries again than Brough!
There's two current players in the team who need signing up on longer deals ASAP and they are Smith & Aiton. They are the two real top class players we have and who we should be building around ready to go into our new stadium and the new exciting chapter the club is set to embark on.
There's plenty of other quality in there and loads of potential good young homegrown lads to bed in aswell.....Smith & Aiton are absolutely key for me though!!
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