Not much quality anywhere in that position. I really don’t know what’s gone wrong, I can’t even think of a championship HB worth a punt at the moment.

There may be some talent available on loan from one of the top clubs I don’t know.

Wigan seem to have a lot of options on the halves and I can’t see all 4 front line halves being able to be kept happy for too long unless they pick up an injury.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Harry Smith become available (who had a stinker of a year last year in truth, but there is a very talented lad there).

I think Leeds may be looking to give Sinfield some game time too but think he may end up at Bradford.

In fairness we would have to be unlucky to have 2 out of 3 front line halves pull up at the same time for any length of time and I think Hood and Walker could fill in there for the odd week before we had to seriously look at bringing in another specialist half.

Crazy isn’t it, Harry Smith was seen as the new George Williams. Potentially too much pressure on him at Wigan? Who knows but class is permanent and the lad can certainly play.

Who’s our U19 HB’s? I know Abrahams plays six and looks classy but he doesn’t look like an out and out playmaker. Thought Butterworth was a HB but I’m not sure?

Robbie Butterworth played fullback for us on Boxing Day and has been at 7 in the 19’s. Charlie Abraham is in the reserves next year and hopefully will get a full time contract, got a lot of potential.

Hopefully this guy will prove to be a great signing for us and help to keep our best team out on the pitch [urlhttps://www.totalrl.com/wakefield-trinity-make-key-backroom-appointment/[/url

Like most on here, it's cautious optimism.

Off-field, cautiously optimistic that everything will go as planned. It is bound to increase the attendance. It won't decrease it. The biggest risk is that people have got out of the game habit during Covid. That is the biggest problem for the game as a whole, in my view, the next year. If it comes off though, with increased attendances, improved sponsorship, and the ability to increase income streams outside of game-day, it's an absolute game-changer. Financially, we could be in a better shape than most other clubs, with many as mere tenants with rents to pay.

We have to stay in Super League though, so on-field is the big thing, and I'm hopeful we'll do okay. Sezer will be a loss to Huddersfield and I think Salford may struggle again. Toulouse may get a few wins at home but perhaps away from home they'll struggle.

Onwards and upwards, in my view.

Have you not seen there squad

I’m personally of the opinion the best chance Abrahams has at securing a place as a SL regular will be if he focusses on being a 13.

On paper it’s a pretty good squad particularly in the backs. I think they lack a bit of toughness in the Props and quality at 9.

Mossop and Brown have been huge players for them and could be big misses.

The main unknown/risk about Salford is their coach. I personally think he has been an embarrassing professional coach in his previous stints basically relying on bully boy tactics and when they didn’t work he had no plan b.

If he he has learned from that they could go well, if he hasn’t and he is expecting his pack to bash opposition teams up i think they could struggle.

Plenty of know how in his halves but without a platform they could be wasted. They have plenty of impact in the pack but I’m not sure it’s long minutes impact. They to meet are lads that come on catch the eye for 10 minutes then tend to go missing because they are shattered.

Yep, nothing special, especially after the first 13, please don’t go down the grass is greener route again.

We will have to differ on this one. This is part of the problem, we need to stop this desire to turn every potential HB into a 13 or a 9 just because they are not quite there yet. Where does it stop, it’s like nobody ever gets a chance.

I’ve not seen as much under 19s as some but he immediately caught my eye, he’s a S/O all day long in my opinion, 13 would be a waste.

Im not going down any route all i did is pick out that they have a great looking squad to someone who think they will struggle and if fair be fairc
as john says they do have a good squad.i dont think there our competitors personally i think its toulouse, hull(yes hull)and Huddersfield but thats just me i do actually think we are looking at 10th which ill be delighted with as isaid other day its about the next 2 or 3 years

I think he lacks the natural pace to be a half.

He though has the frame to be a ball playing loose which as we have seen at Wakefield recently can be a real asset to a team in a division dominated by props running at 13.

Personally think a ball handing 13 is arguably the most important position on the field if you have a good one.

10th, same as last season ?

A ball handling loose forward of the old style? I wish we had one !

Sorry but great looking squad? I beg to differ. I think you’re seeing names and to be fair the first 15 look ok but hardly exceptional.

What you need to remember is that Salford has had the exact opposite three seasons to ourselves. They have suffered very few injuries and have not had their squad depth seriously tested.

This is a threadbare club that runs no Academy or reserves, they invest all they have in the first 17. Should that fail they have no backup either in terms of young players or money.

Maybe their luck will hold who knows but for me they are the worst club in the comp at every level at present. they remind me a bit of us in our early SL years but minus the trickle of youngsters.

If their luck fails them they probably won’t make it until the end of the season. I also can’t see all the on the cusp Aussies they have signed being of the dig deep variety.

Finally are they better than us? On paper no not if we remain fit. In reality, who knows, it’s impossible to predict, nobody in 2003 thought that the following year we’d become one of the best teams in SL. In 2015 I think we’d hit rock bottom, the next three seasons were IMO our best and most consistent in SL.

There are so many factors but the two that count are the four main signings, Hood, Lineman, Gaskell and Whitebread. They could all be duds but they could all be brilliant. Even more important is getting the quality we already have, which is considerable, back on form. I think Boxing Day showed we now have the depth.

PS: Not having a go but be honest. If you woke up tomorrow morning and Salfords squad was now our squad what would be the first thing you'd post? You'd be worried about our total lack of depth and for once I'd agree with you.

Nah not for me not on this one.

Anyway even if he isn’t as fast as you’d like would it matter? There is such a shortage of his type of HB he’d still have it all to himself rather than be lost in a see of identification LF’s.

Nigel Wright wasn’t fast and today I suspect he’d be earmarked for LF, what a waste that would have been. He also apparently had the build, turned out looks can be deceiving.

No wrong again you know sweet fa about trinity Nigel wright had speed ,build and a brilliant pair of hands(apparently) you’ve never seen him play have you ,ahhhhhhh what a joke

What in gods meme are you on about.

Never seen him play, I used to stand with him on the North bank before he broke through and followed his career til the end,. He is one of my all time favourites.

I have to ask if you ever read any bodies posts or just react like an idiot.

Of course he had the build and the hands where did I ever say he didn’t! In fact that was exactly what I did say.

What he didn’t have was the speed of some of his contemporaries like say Steadman. He was no slouch by any stretch but it was not speed that made him such a great player.

You need to go away and grow up a bit mentally and then you might one day make a worthwhile post.

For me I don't really pay attention to the league table and take each game as it comes. I find that way the games far more enjoyable and each and every one is as important as the other.

Having said that, I am surprised that the first game hasn't been touted as a must win yet by our very own long distance supporter.

Agreed, the only time I take notice of the league is when we are too close to the bottom or much rarer close to the top. Otherwise who cares so long as we win more than we lose and we entertain.

I think I post this same comment every year:
I love the close season because it's generally full of optimism and positivity. Then along comes the playing season and it's another year of stress and worry until we are mathematically safe from the drop.

Yeah close season it's great to be joint top for a few months but I feel optimistic for the coming season.
There seems to be a buzz under the new regime !

It's Lineham and Whitbread, Vasty...but I could forgive you for getting Dave-to-the-loo wrong, if we offer him a contract