Personally,I don't want another club dead but there were plenty who were looking forward to dancing on our grave over the last few years and they weren't all from Cas.

Not saying on here, that's ridiculous. But an official statement through the club website or an open letter like you have on another topic.

I just think on a situation like this it won't have been discussed over the phone. Otherwise it's a case of MC's word against the RFL's word. Surely they will have been some record of these discussions?

Hopefully the open letter will clear things up.

That's one way of describing it.

Edited for accuracy

I haven't seen any disproportionate rants; it's fast becoming received wisdom over on the VT, thanks to Adeybull and his ilk, that there is a mob of Wakey fans baying for the Bulls to be booted out of SL altogether. Having been camped here for a few days and involved in the discussion - have *you* seen any?

As one of the Wakey fans that have commented numerous times on the thread on the VT and on here I don't recall seeing anyone suggesting that they should be booted out.

There have been numerous comments stating that that is what Wakey were told would happen to them. That is different in my opinion, but as you say Adey and Smokey appear to be taking things a bit too personal and making those comments out to be worse than they are to justify their own arguments.

FWIW my opinion is that Bradford should be docked 6 points immediately with the option to have that reduced based on the percentage of debts they honour. That appears to be the precedent set so that is what should happen.

I think you'll find those £20 will add up. Mind you it probably doesn't matter to you as big Nige will see you right.

If justice is seen to be done more poeple may be inclined to travel to your iconic hole in the ground. If not then your club is going to be hit in the pocket by many away fans not attending. It's the only way fans have of dishing out their own punishement should our esteemed governing body show itself to be running a sham of a game.

And if we are deducted points will you be coming to odsal to support your team? As we have been given the appropriate punishment?

Not by a long short, the perception that your a club that are too big to fail (in the eyes of the RFL) is enough for me to not pay a penny into your club. A massive conflict of interest exists on an epic scale. At least I won't beat myself up knowing I've financially contributed to the farce. I along with tens of thousands of other fans ( a large % of them been ex fans) value the concept of fair play, the likes of yourselves that make excuses for cheating refuse to understand. if I didn't have a uncontrollable emotional attachment to Wakefield Trinity I would walk away from the game for good. I have a feeling I'm not in minority of Rugby League fans with that view.

I'll be supporting Wakefield when they go to Bradford.
I don't care what they do with my money.

At last, someone who talks sense

I'll be at Wakefield in a fortnight! I am a little bored with wondering if we would have a team to support this year. Can you let me know are away fans in the same stand as last season it wasn't the best for viewing or can we get tickets to stand with you behind the posts like in previous seasons.
Also I honestly believe that Bradford haven't been treated overly well. Losing sky money is massive to any RL club, it has added hugely to the two year struggle and loss of many high quality young players. If we gain an advantage I would expect points docking. I like the idea of your poster who suggested 6 points till creditors paid. I'd give it a time limit till May, I wouldn't,t want to be a club four points above us in September if we got 6 points back.
Anyway see you in two weeks!

A similar stance to the previous Bradford BOD

I could have been CFO

wonder if sammut's injury was to his writing hand like carvells to not agree to tupe?? now there's a thought? also luke george coming back is that worth a punt?

Curious statement, that.

Of the 331 posts on the VT thread to date, mine constitute a very small proportion.

In not one of those posts did I say or suggest anything to support your allegation against me, to the best of my recollection. If I did, could you link to it? Not having been camped on there like you have, I may have forgotten something.

Pretty well all my input onto that thread has been to seek to rebut disinformation, factual inaccuracies and downright untruths being posted on there as received wisdom. Including by a few contributors from this forum. As is so often the case, I see the response included plenty of derision, but precious little of substance to actually rebut anything I said.

As indeed I see has been the response to the only other post I have made on this forum in many months.

I would prefer it if you would withdraw that allegation, but I have no expectation that you will.

It's not an allegation, it's an observation; and no, I won't be withdrawing it.

Your endless spin, couched in the language of accountancy, is dull, pedantic and often misleading; you act as an apologist for whomever happens to be feeding you scraps from the Bulls board room and attempt to browbeat anyone who has a different view.

They're also observations by the way, so don't waste your time asking for empirical evidence, links, quotes or any other form of proof; I don't have them, and I'm very comfortable with that.

It was an allegation. "Thanks to Adeybull..."

As it happens, I hear virtually nothing from the "Bulls Boardroom". And I can assure you no-one is feeding me anything. Quite the opposite, in fact. Trying to get any hard facts and truths out of there has always been extremely difficult. Virtually everything I post is from my own assessment and observation. Which is why I have not always called it right.

But, in all of what you said, I see nothing to rebut anything I said. All I see is resentment that someone should have the temerity to challenge some of the utter crap that I see posted. Or to expose some of it for what it is.

This is self evident.

Carvell looks to have seen enough according to sky sports news:
"Carvell, who has reportedly agreed a one-year deal at Hull with the option of a second season, made 164 appearances for Hull from 2001-08, including two Challenge Cup final appearances, before joining the Wolves, for whom he played in last October's Grand Final.

Although Bradford chairman Mark Moore said at the weekend that coach Francis Cummins' squad had been "ring-fenced", it is thought that Carvell has made clear his desire to leave the club, who are in the middle of another crisis after OK Bulls Ltd was put into administration.

The Bulls say all the players have been transferred to a new company, Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd, but they are facing a possible points deduction with a crucial meeting with the RFL scheduled for Friday."

In their statement today it says that no Bulls players are for sale.......which if the 'rumours' are correct and the original contracts are now null and void, makes sense.

Every member of the playing staff can speak to whoever they want and there would be no fee involved as there are simply no contracts.

Goes on to say how they are hoping that the 'Rugby League Family ' keep their hands off and play by the rules. Unfortunately ( Warrington apart ) the same rule didnt apply to us

Wow that some mind bending leap to the moral high ground they have managed!!!!

Correct Kinley ! Makes you laugh.......

Yep thats what we are doing, much of it from yourself. Thanks for pointing it out.

Way off topic.