You going to stand with someone else this weekend then, instead of next to me as usual ????

Excellent, hopefully being held back hasn't hindered his development too much and he fulfils his potential.

Was going as lad is playing in junior tournament before game so got a discounted ticket. I wasnt happy about going a few weeks ago and was well cheesed off after Sunday. Feel much better now and more optimistic.

I am going with a different viewing point even though I was going anyway. I am happy Webster has gone and I am happy the club are not rushing into a decision for the next coach. I would rather the club appoint the right man even if it takes a few weeks. This is the biggest appointment since the Kear great escape!

Ali won't be playing this week. Got his ankle in a brace and on crutches.
I'd go with;

Jowitt
Riley / Owen
Lyne
Collis
Johnstone

Sammut
Smith

Anderson
McShane
Scruton
Crowther
Washbrook
Kavanagh

Godinet
Molloy / Ryan
Paea
Annakin

This isn't a dig at Kirmond - because personally I think Kirmond has been one of the players that show their commitment to the club - But player welfare comes first and the guy really needs a break!

Also there is potential to have 4 home grown players in that squad. 4 more than we had sunday...

Hall
Riley
Lyne
Collis
Owen

Godinet
Smith

Annakin
McShane
Scruton
Molloy
Ryan
Washbrook

Sammut
Anderson
Paea
D Smith

I have faith in Hall, think he's shown some good flashes which could be more effective behind a rejuvenated team, needs to stop with the poor touch kicks though!

Does anyone know how long Matty Ashurst is out for?

A few changes here and there would do me. Those that have been playing week in week out and delivering nothing should be replaced, they've had their chance, far too many in fact. Godinet not in the 17 last week was baffling, Sammut isn't everyone's cup of tea but he deserves a chance at least in the halves so Miller and maybe Smith would be dropped for me. I would have Annakin in if fit every day of the week, this kid runs it in hard every time, tackles well and never shirks responsibility. Lyne didn't make it last week but i'd have him back in and would have Ryan in in place of Kirmond who needs a rest. Let's see who Dickens goes for and see if it makes any difference with Webster gone. I'm looking forward to finding out what the squad is and seeing the game come Sunday afternoon. It's vital now that we get back to some positivity and build from there.

Sammut in for Miller, but leave Tim where he is.
As some have already said he 'ran the show' first half against Leigh.
If the rest are not where they should be on attack Smith is made to look ordinary.

I don't agree that Sammut just deserves a chance because he is there.
If he shows up in training or when on loan then so be it but I haven't seen anything to make me change my mind on that.

My preferred choice would be Miller at fullback, Godinet at SO and Smith at Scrum half.
If McShane needs a rest, we'll have to use Washbrook for a while.
I'm not sure about Hall at the moment. He isn't impressing me enough, even though he is actually the one making some breaks.

Kirmond is a question mark for me.
I said to my brother that he didn't seem to be doing anything when he went off but clearly he left a hole as they scored 3 tries while he wasn't there.
But young legs are clearly needed so I like Annakin coming back in

Quite - how can Tim run the show with no possession! If we had gained any element of control in that second half, then we would have won. But then we wouldn't have changed coach either!

If the price for SL survival is losing at home to Leigh, then I'll take it. We have to make this situation work for us now!

Poptart not looking for an argument but why do you want Miller at fullback? Last year IIRC you thought Sammut should play fullback instead of 6 and that was a disaster. IMO Sammut needs a run at 6 alongside Smith, last year Warrington away these two were paired and it proved successful. halfbacks are not the answer for fullback, just because Tomkins was a success doesn't mean it will work for every halfback.

Craig Hall is an enigma. He wears the 1 shirt, but watching him this season just reminds me how badly we miss a proper out and out fullback, such as Matty Blaymire or Richie Mathers. Neither set the world alight, Blaymire slow in attack, Mathers shaky in defence, but both would be better options than any we have right now.

Ashurst was in the team the last time it won a SL game. Thought they said out 3 months with groin injury first week of March which may mean mid June?

Need a hooker on the bench to interchange with McShane. I think the 17 may be.....

1. Hall
2. Owen
3. Collis
4. Lynne
5. Riley
6. Sammut
7. T.Smith
8. Scruton
9. McShane
10.Anderson
11.Ryan
12.Kirmond
13.Washbrook

Subs. Godinet, Paea, Kavanaugh, Annakin

Just a thought, is Kavanagh allowed to play Sunday?

If Dan Smith is fit he'd be ahead of Kavanagh who hasn't had much impact since his arrival on loan.

Cheers, what I mean't though would Widnes allow him to play against them.

Trying to kick a 40/20?, a kick into the in goal area to force a repeat set?

Unfortunately he has a poor kicking game ,is poor defensively and very rarely takes on the line. His saving grace has always been a good passing game, missing out men and putting players into gaps but even that this season is nowhere to be seen.

Our halfbacks are the major problem, hence we are scoring so few points.

With respect I think that is rubbish, our major problem is our defence not our half backs who admittedly haven't been great but without a platform who would be

A matter of opinion I guess.
The stats say we are pretty average at missing tackles, but have fewest attacking kicks in the league,

We badly need a kicking game from somewhere and I don't see it coming from smith and miller.

I agree he hasn't been playing very well, but I still think we see the best from him, or any halfback, when the forwards are winning. That was behind our recruitment thinking, but it hasn't worked out.

Tim Smith has proven his quality time and again over the seasons he's been with us. His kicking has never been good and I would like to see a half with a kicking game play at the side of him [cough sammut cough. However, what's he supposed to do when the structures/runners off the ball aren't even there to give him good options? Individually the team is good but as a team we are pathetic. Sick of seeing the forwards receive the ball on a standing start with no depth. There's no nice attacking structure of flow to our attack and too many times we lose the wrestle on the floor. To leave Godinet out last weekend was criminal as well. Godinet and McShane spelling.

I wish the half backs were the major problem. Powder puff defence, a lack of desire to make the tackle, poor defensive structures and no cohesion.

Sunday was the absolute prime example of this.

Absolutely true; we look disorganised and confused in defence, and too unfit to maintain any structure - and the tackling itself is poor; we don't wrap the ball up, we don't control the ruck and we don't apply any pressure to the kicker - or protect the player receiving the ball. Stick up a bomb against Wakey - you'll almost always get something out of it.

With regard to half-backs - Tim Smith is still one of the best passers of the ball in SL, but as I've always said, his kicking game is sub-par; our last tackle options as a result are very limited, and rarely pressure the opposition. And Miller doesn't help him at all - he's like a headless chicken.

Do the stats count players strolling through the defensive line untouched as missed tackle? Surely you have to attempt a tackle to miss it.