Youre not being helpful... squealing like a kid in macdonalds is not going to make a damn bit of difference... at this stage even if the stadium does not materialise I want to see every aspect of this affair publicly exposed and challenged in the highest court! Let those who are culpable face the consequences!

The ignore user function is great

Whilst I agree that it's not helpful, those that are not privy to the full facts (which don't forget are pretty damn confusing for the average daft lad / lass from Wakey) probably do feel like this. There will be many that just want to simply see a resolution to the matter without been fully educated on the issue at hand and as far as they are concerned this has been going on for years.

Again I agree on the legal proceedings too. But at what cost do we think will be required. I'm not educated on these types of legal matters - but say we win. We may have our legal costs covered by the other side. Do we honestly expect YC to also suggest they have the means to go on a build a stadium? Box may well get his comeuppance but then what? We win the battle but not the war as we still don't have a stadium. I'm not in any way shape or form critical of the trust, MC, CB or anyone else fighting this battle on our behalf. But there is a feeling that we have been royally screwed and there will be no end product. I sincerely hope I am wrong I really do. But I can sympathise with those who are negative about this.

My feeling on this is that if box feels he'll get a comeuppance that he would do anything to protect himself including agreeing to the trust conditions

Mr Carter will tell it as it is .Council put statement out but no clear information about what its demanding from the club.More important they keep on about the trust but who's the trust. The names of the trust should have been made public as soon as the plans of the new ground came out. Because of the hard work of Mr Carter we are in a very stable position and think it's it's a ploy by certain people to get the chairman to walk away. He is by far the best thing that has happened at this club in my 60 plus years of watching this club.

Quote ="alegend"Mr Carter will tell it as it is .Council put statement out but no clear information about what its demanding from the club.More important they keep on about the trust but who's the trust. The names of the trust should have been made public as soon as the plans of the new ground came out. Because of the hard work of Mr Carter we are in a very stable position and think it's it's a ploy by certain people to get the chairman to walk away. He is by far the best thing that has happened at this club in my 60 plus years of watching this club.'" I don't think the membership of the trust has ever been a secret. Full details: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... 6/officers

Quote ="alegend"Mr Carter will tell it as it is .Council put statement out but no clear information about what its demanding from the club.More important they keep on about the trust but who's the trust. The names of the trust should have been made public as soon as the plans of the new ground came out. Because of the hard work of Mr Carter we are in a very stable position and think it's it's a ploy by certain people to get the chairman to walk away. He is by far the best thing that has happened at this club in my 60 plus years of watching this club.'" I don't think the membership of the trust has ever been a secret. Full details: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... 6/officers

Quote ="coco the fullback"I don't think the membership of the trust has ever been a secret. Full details: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... 6/officers'" Think he is referring to the "New Trust" not the current Wakefield & District Community Trust.

Quote ="coco the fullback"I don't think the membership of the trust has ever been a secret. Full details: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... 6/officers'" Think he is referring to the "New Trust" not the current Wakefield & District Community Trust.

Have the the "new trust" gone public or is it still just rodders' stirry stick?

We have no idea but cannot see any new Trust registered with Companies House.

This seems like a strange development [urlhttps://twitter.com/MartynSadler/status/926095923846971392[/url

www.totalrl.com/wakefield-counci ... d-trinity/ Crock of crap.

www.totalrl.com/wakefield-counci ... d-trinity/ Crock of crap.

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Hats off to WMDC, 88M and YCP - they've played a blinder here; they've used the void created by the silence from WT and the Trust, to win the argument in the court of public opinion. This will be hard to come back from in terms of winning support from anything but the tiny minority of the citizens of Wakefield who read this board - the club now being portrayed as not only intransigent and expecting something for nothing, but irresponsible for selling tickets to a stadium they have no agreement to use.

Comprehensively outmanoeuvred - like Tom Johnstone running round, over and through the entire Shudds team.

Sorry Bren but that's plain wrong - t's a short term gain thats all - as Monty said you can lose every battle so long as it's not the last one because the last one wins the war. Trinity have a history of that.

Also you can't have it both ways. The other day you were saying the Wakefield public didn't care as regards this issue - so in what way has that changed?

We could be playing elsewhere and the tickets be used for that,what good is belle vue without Wakefield trinity what use is belle vue without anyone to pay the rent .

Keeping their powder dry. Taking legal advice. Working away behind the scenes.

You get the picture.

A smaller possibly 4g community facility, 5 a-side piches etc would take up much less space and as such cost much less to run. It would open up the site for extra development to bring the cash in. The individual organisations that used them would pay for the privilage and the rent covered that way as happens in other facilities of that nature.

As for the tickets yes they would be transferable but given they've have been sold under the guise of playing at Belle Vue should that not be the case then a refund would have to be offered. I doubt many would take them up on it but it would only be right and proper to make the gesture.

Correct. I know it's frustrating for people but after 12 years of fighting do they not think those involved have not learned a trick to two.

The Trust members and the Trinity BOD are not stupid people and unlike Box are only fighting on a single issue. We have far more time to get things right than he and his cronies do.

They are just fobbing people off whilst we are building a case - which would people prefer, cheap soundbites or well thought out actions?

Funny thing is I'm more relaxed about our prospects than ever before because at last it's heading for a showdown. A showdown that if we win will get us what we want - even Box cannot dodge a final binding legal judgement. He cannot allow this because it would mean his Council was operating illegally which in turn would see him and his cabinet sacked and the Council taken under Central Government control. If that was the option he would soon find the money and the will - he's calling our bluff.

For all those that find this a bit worrying take comfort from this.

This press release looses total credibility as soon as it mentions Yorkcourt will become financially involved.

That lot could have bought the stadium and Superbowl prior to 88G and did all they could to avoid doing so. If the scheme is to rely on anything from them, its already dead.

In fact don't read this press release as worrying news, its actually quite comforting because its sheer desperation indicates how worried the council really are.

But as PB has said the stadium build relies on funding from Yorkcourt. Even a win in court, which is far from guaranteed, will not result in them building a stadium at Newmarket or anywhere else, it will just mean the land up there won't be developed and in all likelihood be returned to greenbelt. To try and flog it to another developer willing to shell out £10-12 million out of their profits for a stadium build, planning costs, plus the land already used for the freezer is unlikely to happen, especially in any kind of timescale that gives us a chance of survival. It might screw Box up which would be very nice indeed, but will we get a stadium out of it? Nah.

Again, without knowing Carter's response it is difficult to back his cause.

The council are saying they are giving all natch day income and match day priority to Wakefield as well as full access to training areas.
They say Wakefield want full control instead.

If that is not correct, why not just come out and say well take it and let the trust manage the other days?

I'm completely willing to back the trust and the Trinity board.. but what am I backing?

Comments on here saying don't worry seem to be based on what they'd like to think is happening rather than what they know is happening.

I welcome facts to enlighten me if anyone has them, but I haven't seen any yet.

Why would that happen. Councils can be sued and the Trust can sue the Council. Forget about YorkCourts its the Council who will be sued I suspect and sued on behalf of the Ratepayers who they have failed.

Of course they won't want that and will then and only then find the solution that is needed and part of that will be to force Yorkcourts hand. Remember Yorkcourt don't own the site where the stadium will be built nerd they have planning permission to carry on. 88 group don't have planning permission either. Can you imagine how easy that one would be to block especially if the Council were forced to swap sides.That is how I see it.

Truth is you're not an expert and neither am I. We don't have the knowledge or all the fact, in fact I doubt many people do have the knowledge of such a complex case including the Council.That's why the Trust are taking it slow, we can't afford to make mistakes.

The planing permission for the new stadium at bell view as been past two weeks ago

Wasn't so long ago Box was telling yorcourt to pull away from the project ! Now it seems there chums again...
My own opinion is that there trying to sicken MC off ..
let's not panic just yet... if the council had naff all to worry about why even bother with the statement today...

From an outsider looking in, so please be patient with me!!

The trigger point has not yet been reached with the builders?
Is this right? Because if it is, I honestly cant see what recourse MC has. I get the outrage over false promises, under-handedness etc. I truly do. But from a legal viewpoint, I just can’t see how you are in any position to be demanding anything. To be honest, I dont think your chairman is doing your club any favours with his tweets. To me he’s coming across as a bit of a spoilt brat who isnt getting his way. I expect a bit of flack for that comment, but seriously, the time for cryptic tweets and snide remarks has long gone. If you have something to counter the claims against you, just say it! You don’t need advice from a lawyer to offer counter arguements made against you!
The majority of people will now be of the opinion that your chairman wants to have his cake and eat it. You will not like this because you are emotionally involved, but its true. The time for a response is now. Even if its just a re-hash of a previous statement, just offer something to get the population of Wakefield back in the picture.
Tell the world what you are legally owed....