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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"There is only one person who is looking stupid here my friend and thats you
. Whether he is a pro or not you say. =#FF0000So when Ashley cole goes to every football ground he is allowed to flip and throw water into the crowd. HE got called a bell end for god sake that is nothing. You are pure comedy add little to any debate and when you do same something its special
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=#FF0000Don't really understand what you mean.
I bet you only call people bell ends from the safety of your PC??
Simply (just for you) if you insult someone and don't consider that there might be negative consequences then you are simple ( ) if you do and there are, then thats pretty much all you can expect.
The insult came before the re-action - therfore remove the former and the latter ceases to be.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Isn't baiting the opposition players all part of the spectacle? Let's not get holier than thou. I don't have a problem with people abusing players provided that it doesn't overstep the mark in terms of human decency (racial, homophobic, a bit too personal). Players expect it, and I expect a lot enjoy it. Can there be a better thing to score against a crowd that has been on your back for 80 minutes?
When I have seen players respond in jest, it has always gone down well. Solomona making "singalong" gestures when people were chanting suggestions that he may be overweight, or Greg Bird in his first game when he made a drinking gesture. The fans know it is pantomime, and so do the players. The fact that Griffin bit just shows that he lost the plot and the abuse had the desired effect. It put him off.
If a fan threw a bottle at a player, he would expect a ban. Griffin might have to cop for the same.
My post about his shirt was really just to point out that he seems to view his time with Wakey with some pride. Maybe it was his debut shirt?'"
I am not saying that baiting doesn't or should'nt happen - as i posted we've all done it.
My issue is that when someone (a player) reacts its all there fault and they should be punished.
As people prove endlessly on this forum its easy to be an anonymous warrior, how many would have gone up to Griffin and called him a bell end - not many, but its ok to do it from the crowd and then decry the player for reacting.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"after walking off the field today and exchanging words with a spectator mr griffin decided to launch a bottle at him. the security were there in a flash and realised the problem was caused by griffin. id like to think this is now a matter for the rfl, what an absolute idiot and to think hes a proffessional player.'"
Im innocent... although Id like to buy whoever the fan was a pint !!
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| I don't see how anyone can make excuses for Griffin - if the incident played out as has been described here, he is entirely at fault; baiting and banter from the crowd is a part of sport and as Slugger says, many players enjoy it - I remember Big Ali sticking his tongue out at my son a couple of seasons ago after a bit of sledging from jr - it made his afternoon.
Griffin is no different to any other player - if he didn't like what he heard, he should have ignored it; chucking something at the shouter was irresponsible and daft - imagine the mess he'd be in if it had bounced off the head of the offspring of a particularly litigous parent.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"I am not saying that baiting doesn't or should'nt happen - as i posted we've all done it.
My issue is that when someone (a player) reacts its all there fault and they should be punished.
As people prove endlessly on this forum its easy to be an anonymous warrior, how many would have gone up to Griffin and called him a bell end - not many, but its ok to do it from the crowd and then decry the player for reacting.'"
I called him to his face, and he showed his the mardy sod, i have crapped scarier! If he were to come back here it would be the worse move ever for both parties, crowd against him from day 1, he has shown he doesn't have the mettle to deal with the grief.
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| In my view there is a difference between name calling and violence, both are wrong however in most cases violence is seen as more wrong. He is a professional player and should act as such
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| I don’t mind payers giving a bit back, I recall last year the FC fans giving Cockayne hell all throughout the match, particularly as he fumbled a kick early in the game, yet when he was giving it to them at the end after an unlikely Trinity victory they were most upset and claiming he was inciting them.
I’ve no issue with Griffin giving something back, but not by chucking a bottle into the crowd and you would expect he will be dealt with appropriately, but as kinley said, you can’t expect to call someone a bellend without expecting some sort of negative reaction from the target.
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| I agree with all the comments to say Griffin is wrong to throw something into the crowd. I'm quite sure he'll be dealt with for that.
The bit that gets me a bit is that some see it as ok to bait a player but then are all distraught when the player reacts. Isn't that what they were aiming for?
By all means call him and laugh when he gets a ban but there is no point going all "how dare he" when he reacts.
He gets more stick than most from Wakefield fans. I think he's got every right to react.....its just if he over reacts, there will be consequences.
In just the same way that if a crowd of lads start jeering another guy in the crowd and are abusive, it is wrong for the other guy to stick one on him, but you ought to expect it.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I agree with all the comments to say Griffin is wrong to throw something into the crowd. I'm quite sure he'll be dealt with for that.'"
I fail to see how unless the referee/officials saw the event, or somebody complains through the official channels. Given our cosy relationship with the Hetheringtons I can't see it being us.
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| There is a danger though that if we don't say anything that, as it is in the public domain, the RFL will know anyway.
I take your point though, which in some ways makes it worse. If not reported it can just be seen as hear say crowd trouble......which reflects on us.
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| He should not have thrown the water bottle suppose it had hit a child what then, its ok saying its only plastic but the drinking end could cause damage to the eye.His reaction would have been better if he had shouted "but this bellend is winning hows it going with you".I dont agree with calling a player all the names under the sun a little light banter yes but getting personal no.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Spare a thought for refs and TJ's what Griff may have got for a few seconds yesterday they get for a full 80 minutes everyweek.
Also just to spice things up a bit ,I heard we have been in talks recently with a view to a return to us.'"
Hope not. Don't rate him at all.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Spare a thought for refs and TJ's what Griff may have got for a few seconds yesterday they get for a full 80 minutes everyweek.
Also just to spice things up a bit ,I heard we have been in talks recently with a view to a return to us.'"
Perhaps his reply was in the bottle.
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| When I was playin cricket one time, someone shouted at me and called me a bellend
my retort was "well you've been watching a team play with a bellend for 3 hours so what does that make you"
that being said, Griff will have heard many worse things as a player. I watch normanton and give opposition players lighthearted stick.
I don't think "oi you bellend" is abusive.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"When I was playin cricket one time, someone shouted at me and called me a bellend
my retort was "well you've been watching a team play with a bellend for 3 hours so what does that make you"
that being said, Griff will have heard many worse things as a player. I watch normanton and give opposition players lighthearted stick.
I don't think "oi you bellend" is abusive.'"
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"It must have touched a raw nerve with him.'"
They do say that truth hurts.
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| the thing griffin did wrong was to thrw the bottle ,those hardmen throwing out abuse at a player whos andrenelin would be running high are taking a big risk .Its alright saying their pros and should take the abuse players do laugh at barracking but i wish i could get a bet on that this was personal. some one mentioned about solomona laughing when they called him fat but i also saw him jump into the crowd near the tunnel when someone abused him after being sent off at bel vue.I see inside man says he called it to his face i bet he made sure daryl didnt see his face ,i know all the griffin boys well and their parents and they are decent people but like any decent prson they wont be abused by so called tough guys .The thread is about daryl griffin why if its not abuse call it teapot
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| Coming from someone who bags Mathers on a daily basis
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| whats that suppose to mean i dont rate mathers as a player call him by is proper name never use words like have been on here to describe griffin dont comprehend you Willzay
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| Serves him right for sneakily pretending he was a teapot, I saw right through his disguise though, nice try Dazza.
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| People are going to pee them selves and think ive been hid under a rock but why do they call him teapot?
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| Quote ="PopTart"Think Wakefield fans need to leave this alone.
Whether Griffin should have reacted it was started, not for the first time by a Wakefield fan (idiot fan imo)
It doesn't do us any good.
Don't know why they were so bothered about him as the game was at a key point then.'"
They probably do, but bell end is an insult out of the top draw for me. Perfect for using around both the very young and the old. Not too co but has a bit of an edge to it. Thumbs up for me
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"People are going to pee them selves and think ive been hid under a rock but why do they call him teapot?'"
When he was after his move to Huddersfield and couldn't be bothered to try for the team anymore he'd stand around with his hands on his hips - like in the kids rhyme 'I'm a little teapot'.
Wasted talent, destroyed by his attitude. Some ex-Wakey players get a welcome when they come to play at BV - he never will.
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"When he was after his move to Huddersfield and couldn't be bothered to try for the team anymore he'd stand around with his hands on his hips - like in the kids rhyme 'I'm a little teapot'.
Wasted talent, destroyed by his attitude. Some ex-Wakey players get a welcome when they come to play at BV - he never will.'"
cheers matey
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| I'm no tough guy and he did see my face, I thanked him for his efforts at the club looked in his eye and said good riddance, at which point he got miffed and gave me some verbal littered with foul language even though he was surrounded by kids. I backed that lad when nobody was giving him a chance, I was wrong, as far as I'm concerned his attitude at the back end of his last year stunk to high heaven. Can't think of any other ex player whose attitude is as bad.
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