If you read Adams post it says a star for the future.

This lad needs to do more minutes for us.

Ashurst, Batch, Horo, Arona, Kirmo, Jordy and Annakin, a nice position to be in

Really good performance last night especially in defence by Crowther, things to work on going forward imo but gave us something to think about after my earlier comments.

I thought Jordan went well last night, he put himself about a bit in defence and was always ready to put his hand up for a carry. A solid performance.

More than solid in defence and in his second spell he did a couple of excellent offloads.

Thought Jordy went well stepping up defensively sound I think his 30 odd minute stint was great but he was tired. Go forward he will get better with game time and experience at the top level

That lead to try's

Have to be please for the lad and BLM, an excellent comeback and it will be great to see him in a Trinity shirt again this season.
His defence is excellent and he played a full part in Wakefields win at an very much in form Huddersfield side

Well done

I think your view is clouded by lacking the full facts? Chester gave an interview a few years ago in which he said Wakefield had showed interest in him and he in them. However the negotiations were undermined by Chester's agent falsely claiming that Chester had an injury. As I understand it the agent was drawn by the bright lights of ££££ signs of another offer and wanted to put Wakefield off.

I can't recall where I saw/heard the interview but I definitely learnt about it a few years ago. (Maybe our friend the internet will turn it up.)

I remember him showing an interest. When he was well past his best, probably just before he called it a day and took up coaching.

I doubt we would have been able to affoad Chester in those days

When watching the game on Friday night I watched Jordan with a keen eye, I have not had chance to see much of him so only gone of what people have said.

His first stint, I thought he was great in defense, he took everything they threw at him and was not dominated once in the collision from memory, on the other hand his first stint left me thinking he just did not have much to offer going forward.

His second stint showed he has an offload in his locker, can link up in the line no problem and has the ability to shrug of a tackle or two. He does seem very light weight, I wonder if he has been advised to put some weight on?

He is similar in size to Ashurst, Farrell, Minicello, Ablett, Wilkin all can / could play a bit in the back row. not every back rower needs to be massive

I get what he's saying but agree with you, he doesn't need to be like Pauli to make meters. I think as he matures and gets more confidence in his game as far as taking the ball up, it will come up to the standard of his defense, which is excellent. Not that his attacking game is that far off atm anyway. I just think he does look to pass sometimes when the drive or run to the line is on.

Invested his own money last pre season in a personal trainer to get himself in good shape and seems to have been reaping the forwards fitness wise.

John Bateman doesn't look particularly big at the first glance but not many from super league who can match him.

Not just his money

The joys of parenthood

bet them moths got an awakening

Part of the parents charter, to keep emptying your pockets and it never ends

It’s the grandkids as well now, Snowie

wash your mouth out

I really don't get the issue with Crowther or why he's worth a thread of his own.

For me he was always going to make it eventually so whats the hurry. Also he isn't small despite what some say, he's bang average for a second row. He does the basics well and he has ticker.

No special attributes as such but that said he's the kind of player all teams need.

He could with application possibly become a top player - just look at Anthony Topou who was with us, all be it at fag end of his career. He looked nothing much but he played SOO so although size and speed help they are not the be all and end all.

FWIW if I were to advise Crowther I'd suggest the part of his body he concentrates on developing is his brain, in this world of robotic monsters that's where the future lays for the Crowther's of this world, it's simple just develop a Rugby brain - Watch - Listen and Learn.

I agree with this . I hope he develops into a good old fashioned ball handling forward - there's not one I can think of in RL at the moment but I suppose the modern game doesn't call for such skills from a forward.

Well, whatever anyone's opinions are, he's got 2 excellent backrowers at the Club to watch, talk to and learn from in Ashurst and Arona. Which tbf the lad probably has been doing since they arrived. Obviously, the Coach was quite handy there himself as well, so he's in good hands.

I'm afraid you are miles away there FMC, a footballing brain is definately one thing he has got , but like you say, opinions.

I think you've totally misunderstood me. It's clear that he has got a rugby brain, that's why I suggested he keeps developing it!

I know you're a proud dad (aren't we all) but clearly at 22? he's not yet the finished article in that respect. However he's definitely got it from what I have seen, smarter than you're average forward for sure. I feel the same about Batchelor so the option of having two ball playing support orientated S/Rs to pick from looks a huge bonus to me.

Hope that's cleared that up