I would assume that most "freebies" are issued by the club in the first instance, if the practice is to cease, the club only need to issue "less".
Never heard or seen the shirt one.

So thats where all the "mediums" went.

tickets are sold to unison members for their own use at a discounted rate as part of the unison sponsorship, are often passed on to the spouses/mates etc of unison members which is taking the pee.

The deal must be known about by the club because Unison offered 3 adult tickets per game at £9 each last season. They have to be paid for so why shouldnt they be allowed to be passed on ? What the point of selling a £9 ticket for a tiny profit, seems like a big waste of time to me.

i don't suspect re-sale at all, as like you say it's not worth the bother.

didn't know about the 3 ticket offer, i only know of people who are not members attending without members in their party. some people are so low that they'd rob the club that they claim to support of a few bob.

there's a guy that stands by me that always has a unison ticket, his mrs is a member, but he isn't.

If she has paid for 3 tickets, she has to give the remaining 2 to someone or what's the point in selling one unison member 3 tickets per game ?

Typical ill informed nonsense. There is no stipulation as to there use by Unison. They offer members up to 4 match tickets per game. Even to you it must be obvious that they don't expect the members family to all be Unison members



So let me explain how it works. Unison sponsor the club and as part of that deal get a number of tickets which as part of the deal they have paid for. They then pass them onto their members at a subsidised rate - following so far?

So Trinity have been paid up front, whatever happens to those tickets the club doesn't lose a penny. It doesn't matter how immoral you think it is (as do I) to re-sell the tickets at an inflated price - the club does not lose. Only if the ticket were sold for more than a full match day ticket could it be argued that the club has lost revenue.

Ditto Unison.

Passing them onto family or mates is totally fine so long as no profit is made. I get four and pay £40. Use one myself, give a ticket to the wife and sell two on at cost price. This is fine because the club still got the full £80. It ALWAYS gets it's money that the beauty of the scheme.

It may not fit in your paranoid world but it's fair enough to most reasonable folk. These tickets are NOT freebies so the club has no say what happens to them other than they can't be sold on Trinity property or a public road or above there face value which is touting.

I'm not in Unison and I don't have any family members in it either. I have been given Unison tickets a few times which I passed on for free - no use to a season ticket holder - but that was my choice.

I wouldn't bother, this bloke is simply agenda driven and a touch bitter. I have had a go at explaining it to him but it will come to nothing.

i have decided to kill myself in a bath of baked beans.

Why waste the baked beans

I can only think of 1 game in the last 40 years or so when you might... just [imight[/i have been able to sell a ticket for more than the match day price. Anyone who's managed to do this on a regular basis is a sales genius, or knows a lot of very thick people.

When you next come over and are stood on the terraces, just have a good look round....

OK, will do.

...anything in particular I should be looking for? Sales geniuses? Dumb people? Vastman's missus' Unison tickets?

Certainly the only game that I can recall that was a sell out. TBF the trick is to sell them for more than a tenner I suppose which means someone is getting a bargain of sorts if it's less than £20. However the club isn't losing anything no matter how morally bankrupt it is to make money off subsidised tickets.

However WTRLFC have been selling us crap RL for most of the last 30 years at full price so maybe we are all a bit thick

My missus isn't in Unison, if she were you'd see me on Donny road making my fortune every other week - think on young man.

Your club will be losing money, If people weren't able to buy your tickets then they would have to pay the club to enter.

Even if Unison have already paid a fee for the tickets in their sponsorship deal, if you weren't selling the tickets on the club would get the money twice.

Sponsors usually get an amount for free, i know JCT600 used to get 3500 free tickets for the Bulls per season, this may well be how the subsidy is arrived at if Unison have a similar deal and then they buy the same amount of tickets, hey presto half price to their members.
No story!!

basically vastman is saying he is doing the club a favour. there should be a star for him in the middle of town.

Not really, he's trying (and clearly wasting his time) explaining how the whole shabang operates, to people who clearly have little understanding!!
I'll try:
Unison/A.N.Other sponsor tickets;
1) The club gets the ££££ income, other than what free tickets it gives away as part of the sponsorship deal.
2) If people sell them on for a profit, that's up to them, i am sure there are touting laws that are in existance to stop it.
3) Any profit then made is additional to the initial profit made by the club, and is for the seller and his/her conscience.
Free tickets, issued by the club;
Money down the drain from the club IMO if it isn't for a valid reason, too many issued to players, staff, helpers etc, too many issued to local businesses and then possibly sold on (Ive seen this one!!).

IMO anyone selling a ticket they've already paid for, i.e season tickets if on holiday, someone can't make the game etc thats fine and dandy, i've done it myself!!

Am I missing something here, or are people seriously trying to convince others that if a man in the Con Club buys a £10 ticket from a Unison member that Unison have bought from the club for £10 instead of going up to the turn style and paying £22 (or whatever) then the club aren't losing any revenue?

(This is, of course, working on the assumption that Unison haven't actually paid full price for the ticket in the first place - which I would suspect to be the case)

Weather or not the club recoups this lost revenue from the sponsorship money received from Unison is another matter of course.

yes i think you might be.
Compare it to season tickets, if you buy upfront and buy enough you get a reduced price.
Multiply that to sponsorship level, as part of your package you will get Z amount of free tickets (i previously posted JCT600s figure as main sponsor of 3500 freebies at the bulls!!).
If the sponsor then buys Z tickets they have an amount, Z x 2 (or half price tickets), alternatively in unisons case they could well be subsidising the ticket's out of their fee's to members instead/as well.
So the club has received £££ for tickets SOLD to the sponsor and £££ for the sponsorship, part of which will be a figure allocated against the "FREE" tickets given with the deal.
Now where does the club not see any money?

Am I - you're wasted you should have been Gadaffi's spin doctor.

Basically the club doesn't lose anything choose where the tickets end up. Simple as that.

Correct, so the crusade is over and the battle lost.