Maybe the club should reflect on why they're getting such low attendances and listen to the fans which have stopped going instead of the ones who continue to go.

Easier to get childs in and ask where we are going wrong when hes officiating then get chester to really emphasise the importance of not doing niggly 50 50s he pulls us for so much and we may win when we get him as ref

Ok Willzay,i'll do it your way.
When Child name is down for reffing at Belle Vue,you just know it's not going to end well.

If you don't watch anymore how can you comment on the way we play, is this how you support the club then by coming on here slating everything Wakefield Trinity despite your own admission that you've done with the club, or are you supporting the club from afar by campaigning to get the coach sacked and at the same time not contributing financially like all the rest of the stay away's, if you were a true fan as you claim to be you'd stop feeling sorry for yourself and support the club irrespective of your differences.

I don't think it's healthy or fair to get the same ref say 2 or 3 times out of 5 or 6 games, but that's also the point, there aren't enough refs full stop! With Thaler stood down that doesn't help either, although we never get him anyway, it seems we get Child alternating with Moore, then a new guy who's done about 2 games in his life!!

Maybe Child could have made a better effort at stopping Fonua for Hull's first try and made a better effort at claiming the high ball for Hull's second try?

No but maybe he could have pulled the highshot on walker coming away from own line when 12 6 down

Even my mate who came over from Malta, commented on the overall standard of refereeing, and he watched both the Leeds game and our game, in a neutral perspective, and said that the standard is poor.

He also couldn't believe that there isn't a video ref at every game.

So this event happened after the lacklustre efforts that put us 12-6 down.
Great logic.

I support the club financially, more so than many. I buy from the club shop regularly and I have Trinity TV to watch games back. I just decided to refuse to go and watch the games live while Chester is in charge, and I'm far from the only one who has made the same decision.

As I've said, I support the club and will continue to do so as I have for so many years, but I'm not supporting the current coach.

Yawn!

Who would you replace Chester with then Egg Banjo?

And with the injuries we had last year which coach anywhere in the world in the last 100 years would have won silverware with the squads we were fielding ?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and you can do whatever you want with your time and money.
However, apart from last season, one where we were decimated by injuries, Chaster's record is as good as any coach we've had in the SL era and in my time of watching, just about as good as any coach we've had.

I'm happy to forgive what happened last season, although it was definitely squeaky bum time during our last game against London and I'm also happy to wait until we have something close to our first choice 17 on the park this time around.

Unless Trinity get a really wealthy owner (no disrespect to MC here), who is happy to lump £1000,000 + every season to buy success, realistically, where do you think Trinity should be in the current 12 club top flight ?

Just to get some perspective, it may be worth looking at our historical record over the last 40 years



Using this barometer, I would suggest that Chester is doing ok.

I'm also intrigued as to why you would take on Trinity TV and spend in the club shop and yet not go to games because of who is currently coaching the side.
Surely it's all Wakefield Trinity ? just because it's on Trinity TV, its still the same coach, staff and club owner ??

Can't argue with that, although I'm not sure what you can buy on a regular basis, scratch cards maybe?.

I'm not loaded and the kit is always released around Christmas time. So my relatives get shirts etc for Christmas and then I usually buy shirts/polos/hoodies over the subsequent months. I've got Trinity TV because I paid for the year before I decided not to back Chester at the games, and I always put into the youth structure

What worries and annoys me about match officials, particularly James Child is that they are regarded by Ganson and the Rugby League as infallible and can do no wrong. If a coach or club criticise them they are punished. Players can be charged with bringing the game into disrepute but bad officials don't appear to be viewed in the same way. THEY ARE NOT GODS (even though James Child has the right initials), and the games hierarchy has to recognise there are good refs; there are bad refs and there are b****y terrible refs.

As mentioned elsewhere on the "Child" thread; why can't there be a system where after a game each club could put three questions each to the referee and then throw open the floor to journalists and let them have a question session.

I don't think it would be right to question incidents there and then in public after the match, the chances are that the official won't fully remember it, and the coaches will still be angry about whatever decision they feel was against them. Better for all parties to go away and re-watch the game as it often becomes clear why a call was made in a particular way on watching it over

The problem with punishing refs for mistake is they are in such short supply anyway...

There definitely is a system in place to drop officials for mistakes or poor performances...I used to regularly speak to one of the best touch judges in super league and remember one morning seeing him and he was absolutely gutted that he’d made a wrong call on tv and had been dropped to the championship the following weekend...

The major problem for me is consistency...I can accept the odd wrong calls as all refs will make mistakes...they’re human...just like players will make mistakes...hate to see where they penalise one team for say an offside, or a ruck infringement and then totally ignore the other side doing it like the offside we got against us...fine, yes, we’re offside penalise us but don’t then go the entire half and not penalise the other team once when they were offside countless times...

That's a fair point.
However, they are not accountable at all.
There should be something on place following the game - the next day or the day after - for the refs and coaches to meet to discuss decisions.
They shouldn't be seen as bombproof.
After all, they will retain their job regardless - players and coaches won't.

But how many times do we watch Sky games and Trinity tv and see incidents that the ref missed that Stevie Wonder could have seen. While ever there’s a shortage of officials they will answer to no one.

Well he will have to answer to the paying customer because I won't go if he's the referee just like it put me off going last night

I think all we can do is keep highlighting his appointments and performances across as many platforms as possible. Does anyone 100% know the actual statistics of our games with him in charge?

I think you should read the tweet from Gareth Walker from a Super League Referee’s wife, and then close down this discussion quickly. Referees are human beings. We may not like every decision they make, but they deserve respect. This place (not as much) and that Northstanders page are becoming so vitriolic and poisonous. Not just referees, but others associated with the Club, who are also life long fans, just doing their job to the best of their ability. And yet they get publicly lambasted, with their families directly or indirectly told about it, and the whole world to see. At times, it’s soul destroying for me, and I don’t get 1% of what referees, head coaches, or players get. It’s time to start thinking about we actually do and say.

Excellent post. I put on here there aren't enough refs to go round basically, I wonder why that is?! Don't get me wrong, in the heat of the moment I've shouted the odd thing at them like we all have, but at the end of the day, without them there is no game to go and watch. Using words like cheat on here is ridiculous, I don't believe any ref has a vendetta, or favours' any particular team, and those that accuse them of this have to come up with evidence and facts.

Well said Daddycol.

While we all bemoan refereeing performances, and think we have all been guilty of it in the past. I do think that there are some that tale it to the next level, and personal abuse of anyone, is unacceptable.

Maybe, looking at the refereeing as a whole, how about increasing their pay, and train ing etc, but at the same time, make them more accountable, when errors are made. Potentially, if you are a player in a team at the wrong end of a bad call, you're livelihood, could well be at stake