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| Quote ="captaincaveman"Our kicking game was much improved particularly from Dagger, it was also helped massively by having two wingers prepared to chase and contest the kick leading directly to two tries and a sin-binning. I think Lino plays right at the line and just hasnt had the runners that he needs largely due to not having a decent centre all season.
The main problem we have had IMO is that we have been playing a weakened team due to injuries against almost full strength teams. Now that some of these other teams are starting to lose players we should look a lot more competitive especially if we start to get a few back.
Having just watched the Leeds game back on Trinity TV i have to say that Jay Pitts was absolutely outstanding. MOM for me.'"
Always liked Pitts and even when the team has been poor he's one you can count on to do his best and to try and drag the others with him.
Also, I saw him after the game and said I was proud of them for how they played. He gave me a manly hug.
Now I'm a big guy but he is made of iron. You can't always tell watching at distance but he is a solid guy.
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| What makes a difference to Lino's game is forwards going forward. Big Dave makes an impact and others follow, it makes a huge difference playing on the front foot.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Always liked Pitts and even when the team has been poor he's one you can count on to do his best and to try and drag the others with him.
Also, I saw him after the game and said I was proud of them for how they played. He gave me a manly hug.
Now I'm a big guy but he is made of iron. You can't always tell watching at distance but he is a solid guy.'"
He always works hard, but i hadnt noticed how big a part of the attacking play he was on Sunday until i watched it back.
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"What makes a difference to Lino's game is forwards going forward. Big Dave makes an impact and others follow, it makes a huge difference playing on the front foot.'"
Didn’t so much at Magic when Dave put in a shift and a few others but our attacking options were still toothless.
I know a number of people really seem to think Lino is a class act and it’s everyone else that’s the problem…
The half he’s with is always the issue - there’s been 4? He’s played with.
The forwards not going forward - despite some games is being camped on the oppositions line.
These tend to be the two statement people use to defend Lino. The only constant though until Sunday has been Lino and historically I’ve never been convinced by his ability or even more so his style of play to hold up the ball repeatedly.
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| Question How many times have Hood and J C stoped the ball from moving along the line .but let's say it is down to Lino easy meat
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| Quote ="alegend"Question How many times have Hood and J C stoped the ball from moving along the line .but let's say it is down to Lino easy meat'"
Hood for me has been one of the main contributing factors as to why we have been as bad as we have, everything about him is slow, his passing from dummy half is pedestrian at best and often lacks accuracy which just stifles any momentum we may have.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"I think the problem with Lino and Smith as a combo is that they have similar styles which doen't make for a good combination. I think one of them with Gale would on paper work but we have no way of knowing until they play. I am not convinced by Dagger, he has pace and a decent boot but I dont think his passing game is good enough for half or full back roles.'"
So at least we agree that Lino and Smith have a style, more than can be said about the team up to Leeds .If Gale gets in the team it will be a bad mistake Danny Brough ,Gaskell all failed,why because like Gale they are\ were to old and slow for S L .My Keighley mate ,said Gale was struggling to make a impact for them .
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| Quote ="alegend"Question How many times have Hood and J C stoped the ball from moving along the line .but let's say it is down to Lino easy meat'"
You are right, but you can't say Lino has no hand in it.
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| Quote ="alegend"Question How many times have Hood and J C stoped the ball from moving along the line .but let's say it is down to Lino easy meat'"
They all do it but I’d say Lino is the worst due to the amount of times he has the ball. I have previously made reference to the others. This can be remedied with coaching on play style.
You can’t say others do it to deflect from the fact Lino does it. That just means others do it too which is accepted and apparent.
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| The problem in the past has been everything goes through Lino … think that may be why hood chose the wrong option at Magic …. the ball had to go to him ! With Dagger n Smith it switched , opposition wasn’t sure which side it would go . Coach or players to blame who knows ???? But Sunday was a breath of fresh air !!!!!!
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| Quote ="cocker"The problem in the past has been everything goes through Lino … think that may be why hood chose the wrong option at Magic …. the ball had to go to him ! With Dagger n Smith it switched , opposition wasn’t sure which side it would go . Coach or players to blame who knows ???? But Sunday was a breath of fresh air !!!!!!'"
Your point is well made but not in this case. Definitely Hood mistake as sent it to Crowther
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| Quote ="cocker"The problem in the past has been everything goes through Lino … think that may be why hood chose the wrong option at Magic …. the ball had to go to him ! With Dagger n Smith it switched , opposition wasn’t sure which side it would go . Coach or players to blame who knows ???? But Sunday was a breath of fresh air !!!!!!'"
Everything used to go through Miller. Lino has only started being the leading half 2023 season and taken that responsibility. He’s never really had the responsibility until this season.
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| Who is or isn’t available for this ? Be a bit harsh to drop anyone am assuming gale hood Bowden Lino are available , atoni Taufau possibly obviously Salabio won’t be playing and that eseh and hewit will have served their bans.
Be interesting to see if gale comes in , personally would stick with bowes and Kaye at hooker, thought kershaw and French winger were excellent. Dagger to centre , Bowden /shaw for salabio other than that would leave rest where they are
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| Who is or isn’t available for this ? Be a bit harsh to drop anyone am assuming gale hood Bowden Lino are available , atoni Taufau possibly obviously Salabio won’t be playing and that eseh and hewit will have served their bans.
Be interesting to see if gale comes in , personally would stick with bowes and Kaye at hooker, thought kershaw and French winger were excellent. Dagger to centre , Bowden /shaw for salabio other than that would leave rest where they are
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| Whitbread and Bowden coming back would certainly add something to the pack.
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| Is whitbread likely to be available , if he was and proctor continues where he left off think we ll give them a game
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| I dont know who is back available, but i read somewhere that there were possibly up to 12 coming back into contention for HKR.
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"I dont know who is back available, but i read somewhere that there were possibly up to 12 coming back into contention for HKR.'"
If we go back to the old men ,we will have learnt nothing
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| Quote ="alegend"If we go back to the old men ,we will have learnt nothing'"
Better leave Fifita out then.
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| Quote ="First25"Better leave Fifita out then.'"
And Pitts
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| I thought there was a reserve game but someone then said there isn’t. This means Hewitt and Eseh out.
If that’s the case then I’d try to keep same as much as possible and go:
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| I think I'd rather have Proctor in SR with Pitts at 13 and Whitbread at 10.
I'm still not sure whether I'd bring Lino back. It's a big call.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I think I'd rather have Proctor in SR with Pitts at 13 and Whitbread at 10.
I'm still not sure whether I'd bring Lino back. It's a big call.'"
Who would be a coach. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t unless we win. I’d change as little as possible.
I’m not sure about proctor in SR purely as he’s used to 15-20 minute stints and us not having any other second rowers.
Pitts and Ashurst will do full 80 at SR. Could put Battye, Whitbread or even bring Crowther back in for 13.
I don’t care so long as we win. It’s a huge game.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Who would be a coach. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t unless we win. I’d change as little as possible.
I’m not sure about proctor in SR purely as he’s used to 15-20 minute stints and us not having any other second rowers.
Pitts and Ashurst will do full 80 at SR. Could put Battye, Whitbread or even bring Crowther back in for 13.
I don’t care so long as we win. It’s a huge game.'"
I think we agree on all the players. Its just a question of position.
It's a big game for us. We don't have that great a record against Rovers but it's probably the best chance we'll have.
I just ask that we give it a go.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I think we agree on all the players. Its just a question of position.
It's a big game for us. We don't have that great a record against Rovers but it's probably the best chance we'll have.
I just ask that we give it a go.'"
Oh absolutely it seems the team we more or less agree.
I think the KR game is a huge opportunity for the players to really break out and show the rest of the league they mean business for the second half of season.
I’m thinking of heading over myself.
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