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| I have never said he's got a money tree, I have criticised the club for its total lack of marketing and effort in Attracting new supporters
Personally I don't care that much about the players that have gone and the players moving on are hardly turning out for top ranked opposition.
I would have much rather read a statement of how the club will move on and take measures to try and make sure we are not in the same position again. How the club will be marketing itself and not relying on the odd Facebook statement of GAME DAY.
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| To me the statement is what it is, we all knew months ago about batch & milky.The only thing was players getting sorted in may,i know they were ooc but it was the lack of faith they might not get out of it.Did they have lack of faith in the club or coach or both just a thought.
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| The dig is needless. He can and should be bigger than petty comments in an official statement.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"It really is pointless trying to reason with some people Pop Tart. Damed if he does, Damed if he doesn’t. Some on here criticised him for not making statements earlier, now criticising when he does. The amount of abuse he receives from some posters on here is appalling, but as soon as he might have had a little dig, those self same critics don’t like it.'"
Carter has a strong personality and self belief, a lot of the anonymous SMALL poster on here can’t deal with it. They claim they want strong leadership then bleat like sheep when they get a version of it they don’t like.
Despite what some chose to believe Carter does not buy the players, train them or pick them, that is the coaches job. Ditto the players, how they play is down to them.
They don’t perform then MC doesn’t have a good product to sell.
He’s a financial wizard but until the team performs he’s limited.
As for invest to accumulate you still need the cash to start with, we clearly don’t!
That said he’s a canny CEO, Although I don’t think we have a pile of cash laying around we are rather nicely placed to pick up those gems the World Cup always throws up. Three overseas players, that’s a lot of wiggle room for WP. I may have been critical of his selections and tactics but his eye for a player has been pretty good.
Could be fun next year.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"I have never said he's got a money tree, I have criticised the club for its total lack of marketing and effort in Attracting new supporters
Personally I don't care that much about the players that have gone and the players moving on are hardly turning out for top ranked opposition.
I would have much rather read a statement of how the club will move on and take measures to try and make sure we are not in the same position again. How the club will be marketing itself and not relying on the odd Facebook statement of GAME DAY.'"
It's a reflection on the 2022 season so you looking in the wrong place for what you'd rather have read.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"The dig is needless. He can and should be bigger than petty comments in an official statement.'"
What dig? Read it again, he even states he’s not having a dig and explains that he understands the reasons.
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| INOUT Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"icon_lol.gif Aye alright.'"
Well he didn’t, alright.
Are you really that emotionally fragile?
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I guess it is an improvement on those who buy tickets on a match by match basis which means if they can’t attend they don’t pay.'"
The positive side to that though is when they do attend they pay more for the ticket negating any loss of revenue from the odd game they miss, there's also the revenue they spend at the ground essential much needed revenue , I'll be specific if you like as being a non attender you won't have experienced things like buying raffle tickets, a programme, a pie and a pint (although not for you as you don't drink) not to mention the joy of watching your your favourite team play, another alien concept of yours I know, sitting in the East stand alone when it's raining because nobody will sit near you because of the hole above your head must have been demoralising with nobody to share the thrill of watching Tom streaking down that wing to score another fantastic try, not the same on trinity tv.
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| We have the communication from the club some have been wanting and I see nothing wrong in it personally.
He's only stating what we all pretty much knew anyway, but does say the club clearly tried to keep one or two of the players who are leaving, so that for me puts to bed 'why did the club let them go!'
For a club with little money we move on and again, personally, until that big money provider comes forward, (Shell? BP? - as somebody has said they're the only ones with money to throw about at the moment!) then I wouldn't want anybody else at the helm than MC.
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| Quote ="chissitt"The positive side to that though is when they do attend they pay more for the ticket negating any loss of revenue from the odd game they miss, there's also the revenue they spend at the ground essential much needed revenue , I'll be specific if you like as being a non attender you won't have experienced things like buying raffle tickets, a programme, a pie and a pint (although not for you as you don't drink) not to mention the joy of watching your your favourite team play, another alien concept of yours I know, sitting in the East stand alone when it's raining because nobody will sit near you because of the hole above your head must have been demoralising with nobody to share the thrill of watching Tom streaking down that wing to score another fantastic try, not the same on trinity tv.'"
I guess you are talking in generality because you wouldn’t be buying a pint and do we still have programmes. I won’t go through the obvious rubbish you appear to like to repeat foggy, I have not had that seat for sometime but you are correct it is indicative that in all the seasons no attempt was made to tidy up the stand. With regards no friends i actually have quite a few in what was the East Stand but mine are friends not those who appear to just put up with someone.
I guess none of us will be able to share seeing Tom scoring another try for Trinity will we.
I have to leave it there because I said I would stop making you look stupid, I agreed because you can do that yourself. I will say it again please go away and bother somebody who cares about what you think foggy.
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| If anyone gets League Express there is a brilliant letter from a Mark Drew of Worcester.
Congratulating Wakefield and berating those that want rid of us.
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| Quote ="vastman"What dig? Read it again, he even states he’s not having a dig and explains that he understands the reasons.'"
Usually when people say there no having a go it's generally followed by a 'go'. I get his frustration of people not understanding/not wanting to understand the financial implications the club finds itself in, but by going official on it he just winds up those who are waiting to be offended. In my view no need, even though it doesn't bother me.
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| Why do fans expect so much more than the club can give .Mr Carter as always said it as it is . Stop been so
critical of a club that as stuck two fingers up at the S L clubs that have big backers.This club is building a ground to keep us in S L You can not blame W Poaching for cash that as been wasted by the last Coach not just this year but 2 year ago when he went on a panic buy of Championship and old past it players .That was the season that set us back big time.We have just about got over that .5 week ago we were talking about Championship rugby All the players Mr Carter as named as leaving as come as no surprise to any body ,in fact Batch bought a house in Hull 6 month ago Time to move on
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I guess you are talking in generality because you wouldn’t be buying a pint and do we still have programmes. I won’t go through the obvious rubbish you appear to like to repeat foggy, I have not had that seat for sometime but you are correct it is indicative that in all the seasons no attempt was made to tidy up the stand. With regards no friends i actually have quite a few in what was the East Stand but mine are friends not those who appear to just put up with someone.
I guess none of us will be able to share seeing Tom scoring another try for Trinity will we.
I have to leave it there because I said I would stop making you look stupid, I agreed because you can do that yourself. I will say it again please go away and bother somebody who cares about what you think foggy.'"
If you bothered to attend a game you'd see programmes were still on sale as is all the other stuff and available to all those who attend, the point being which you have conveniently sidestepped is that if you don't go to the game then you wouldn't be expected to know about these things which are a financial lifeline for the club never mind using them.
As for making me look stupid, if you feel your up to the task please feel free to fill your boots, all I would ask is you cut out the schoolboy stuff with your playground insults if you can, I've made my point no more response from me, you can have the last word which I'm sure you'll want to
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| Quote ="PopTart"If anyone gets League Express there is a brilliant letter from a Mark Drew of Worcester.
Congratulating Wakefield and berating those that want rid of us.'"
Yes that’s a good letter, but there’s also the usual drivel letter get rid of Trinity from a Chris Greer of Otley, (I wonder who he supports). He’s obviously not well informed by making basic misguided comments, obviously just one who jumps on the get rid of Trinity band wagon.
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| Quote ="chissitt"If you bothered to attend a game you'd see programmes were still on sale as is all the other stuff and available to all those who attend, the point being which you have conveniently sidestepped is that if you don't go to the game then you wouldn't be expected to know about these things which are a financial lifeline for the club never mind using them.
As for making me look stupid, if you feel your up to the task please feel free to fill your boots, all I would ask is you cut out the schoolboy stuff with your playground insults if you can, I've made my point no more response from me, you can have the last word which I'm sure you'll want to
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Just digressing but I dont recall seeing programmes on sale for a while now. Didnt think anyone bought them anymore
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Just digressing but I dont recall seeing programmes on sale for a while now. Didnt think anyone bought them anymore'"
Funnily enough the Sts one today is downloadable.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Funnily enough the Sts one today is downloadable.'"
Do we still sell them
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Just digressing but I dont recall seeing programmes on sale for a while now. Didnt think anyone bought them anymore'"
Quite right, not produced a match day program for at least 2 years. The Wakefield Express initially used to print the team and sell the paper at the ground, I don’t think that idea went well. This year the club has been selling the monthly club magazine on home game match day which included the team sheet for that game. This idea is ok if we have only one home game that month, otherwise you’ll be buying the same month magazine again with just a different team sheet.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Do we still sell them'"
We do the Mighty Trin magazine monthly.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Well which ever way you look at fans are the life blood of the club. Once lost they rarely return. There is no getting away from it that the late chester years did the club damage. The back end of this year has been good but Cas at home and Salford away were bad PR. We need a competitive team to deliver good performances ,we also need better facilities to attract new fans. We are getting the facilities so we need a team to match. Its up to the BoD to provide both. Apart from moan and groan there is very little the ordinary fan can do ,other than keep turning up till you get fed up.'"
Blimey we are disagreeing a lot lately
Although I get the point that's just not really how it is. In 1997 I attended a home game against York in which 800 attended. So they clearly do return. The early years in SL saw some pitiful crowds.
Success will bring them back, a comfortable stadium will keep them.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Funnily enough the Sts one today is downloadable.'"
Slightly different from the Saints thing but I suggested similar years ago, even offered to digitise it for that purpose. Probably so long ago it was still the Ted era.
All they need to do is add them to the shop as a purchase download.
All you need for this is a template that I can provide as a word doc for the various club people to fill in. I'd then place that into a proper DTP package (In Design), create a pretty document and then upload it as a fully downloadable .pdf.
There are no costs here, a simple 8 page doc that can be printed at home to an A4 printer if desired. Make it 99p a go. Won't raise a fortune but every little helps. Great for people who like to collect stuff (like me). Make it available 24 hours after a match, so it's got all the scorers on etc, it's more a record than a programme in that respect.
Again I know in this modern era it's now a limited market but it is essentially free to produce.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Not really, i know many who were keen at one time but many will RARELY return, life moves on for people. Its new fans we need and that where the future is. Facilities plus competitive team is the formula. I also said that.
Do you know vasty ,i am sure at times you could pick an argumemt in an empty room'"
No mate, not arguing with you, broadly agree on this one (though not so much some of your other posts), but they always seem to come from somewhere. Also if we were having a pint you'd happily sit for half an hour debating this one with me, it just seems different on here for some reason, and heck I might even win you round or the other way around.
Just watched that Saints Cup game clip, wonder how many of those fans no longer watch other than the ones who will have departed this earth. Most I would imagine gave in years ago.
We've always been able to attract new fans and retain the diehards - what we have not been able to do is keep those who want a little bit more, success, the inbetweeners I'll call them.
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| Yes we do still sell them. I see an short old chap walking round selling them. He shouts, 'get your programmes here, team sheets included' I have only seen him on the West tho
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