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| Quote ="vastman"McDermott is a poor coach stuck in the past IMO, he would ruin Trinity.
Poching has the job for me.'"
I'm just pleased that vastmans opinion doesn't carry a lot of weight
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| As has been mentioned, let's see what sort of response Willie gets from the players on Friday.
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| Quote ="try scorer"I'm just pleased that vastmans opinion doesn't carry a lot of weight'"
Even happier that yours carries none. McDermott hates his home town club and always has and he’s pretty up front about it.
So if you think that makes him an ideal candidate then you knock yourself out Mrs McDermott
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| Quote ="kyassor"Maybe yesterday's second half will get WP to add more steel to his choices. He took over a poor side and immediately got them playing better rugby. It seems like he's said 'give it a go, don't just play safe' and it has worked well. Maybe he hasn't cracked the whip as much as needed as he has been successful with the changes he made so he has let things ride. Yesterday it was one of those second half surrenders that we haven't seen under him. Now he has the chance to explain / show the players that they can't get away with performing like this, CC may have let it roll over week on week but it can't be allowed to continue. A lot of maybes because I'm only a supporter, I'm not as fully informed about the club processes and individual players wishes like some on here claim to be.'"
I wasn’t at the game and haven’t watched it yet so will reserve judgment. But I do think we are going a bit OTT on one bad second half. We will lose games, even the best lose games and we are certainly not the best.
Let’s see how the Hull game goes before making our minds up.
For me if we can win that or at least perform well then that shows he has the players on side.
If he ends the season with 5 from 7??? I think that earns him a shot at the job. It’s up to the club then to find him the support staff he needs and wants.
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| When's McD stated he hates his home time club.
From memory he was quite complementary around the time of the million pound game.
I'm also sure he was in the Wakefield box.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"When's McD stated he hates his home time club.
From memory he was quite complementary around the time of the million pound game.
I'm also sure he was in the Wakefield box.'"
Well I suppose he may have mellowed and when I heard him talk so unfondly of the club it was during the Ted years so I’ll give some leeway.
All the same I just don’t see him as a Wakefield style coach. That’s not to say he is a bad coach the problem is his methods would take a while to work by which time we’d be relegated.
I won’t bore you with a full appraisal but the general idea seems to be that he’s a disciplinarian - so was Smith, that worked well.
Like it or not clubs like ours run are run by consent not by iron discipline.
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| One wobbly game and suddenly WP can't do it and the players are all rubbish
They still played a similar game as before but they just didn't pull the trigger at the right time.
Lyne was ripping them up but a few tries were bombed by him not passing or when he did they didn't pass it back when he was clear.
There was certainly a lack of energy in defence from some but maybe the previous games have just caught up with some.
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| Our wins and losses boil down to one simple factor for me and that is consistency ,the holy grail. We’ve proven that the squad we’ve got are more than capable of winning games against perceived better quality teams ,we just can’t seem to do it on a more regular basis ,and that’s where our new signings come into play ,but only if they are motivated enough by the coach and team. We can’t stand still on player recruitment or we go backwards IMO ,and as we stand we haven’t much wiggle room in the league ,and so our new recruits need to be bang on the money in terms of team enhancement which hopefully will bring us more consistency going forwards . We’ve had some stinkers over the years and some crackers and sometimes it can be a fine line ,but when your running on such a tight budget as we are it must be a nightmare trying to enhance the squad with players that hopefully make us more competitive whilst not breaking the bank.For me I hope the players respond to poaching after this initial honeymoon period and push on to bigger and better things ,because of one thing I’m pretty sure of is we won’t get those sat on the fence and stay away fans back down at belle vue until we see a more consistent/winning team on the field ,and that not just me ( I turn up anyway)it’s boats loads of ex fans who have turned there backs on our club. I know people will bang on about the state of our ground , and yes it’s desperate for an upgrade ,but get the team winning again on a regular basis and playing good rugby and they will come back, it may be in dribs and drabs but they will come . Get pre match entertainment up and running again and make it a family day out ,like what is happening at HKR ,we are in the entertainment business so let’s entertain both on and off the field .
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| Quote ="PopTart"One wobbly game and suddenly WP can't do it and the players are all rubbish
They still played a similar game as before but they just didn't pull the trigger at the right time.
Lyne was ripping them up but a few tries were bombed by him not passing or when he did they didn't pass it back when he was clear.
There was certainly a lack of energy in defence from some but maybe the previous games have just caught up with some.'"
An over reaction on these forums after one loss, well I never.
Honestly certain posters on here need to get a grip.
If we beat Hull we will have won 8 games this season, that’s actually not bad for a team that had to sack it’s long term coach.
This season has now run it’s course it’s next season that matters.
Next season will be difficult but despite what our local doom merchant states it will be no more tricky than normal and not just for us either.
As ever next season could see the end or just as likely see a top six finish. That’s what makes supporting a team fun, or at least for most of us.
Up the Trin.
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| Quote ="vastman"
If we beat Hull we will have won 8 games this season, that’s actually not bad for a team that had to sack it’s long term coach.
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9 we've won 8 already
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| I don’t think the loss of the match against Leigh is the fault of WP. For the same reason I don’t think all the losses under CC were his fault either.
Probably it’s a player thing, they’re not up for it, maybe some not fully fit or simply not good enough in quality. Maybe even a combination of all.
I’ve seen dozens of coaches come and go at Wakefield and only rarely does changing the coach make a long term difference. Most of them for one reason or another don’t last long.
Usually a ‘good’ coach is surrounded by good players he CAN coach!
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| Thought we just lacked composure, was disappointed to say the least. Another day we could have hammered them, we really missed joe westermans ball handling and read near line, dominated for long periods. Don’t think we learnt anything new tbh.
Can’t really see why WP gets any blame on this, too many mistakes by individual players.
Thought Rocky was mom and that Crowther demonstrated if he’s anything he’s a loose forward.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"I don’t think the loss of the match against Leigh is the fault of WP. For the same reason I don’t think all the losses under CC were his fault either.
Probably it’s a player thing, they’re not up for it, maybe some not fully fit or simply not good enough in quality. Maybe even a combination of all.
I’ve seen dozens of coaches come and go at Wakefield and only rarely does changing the coach make a long term difference. Most of them for one reason or another don’t last long.
Usually a ‘good’ coach is surrounded by good players he CAN coach!'"
Or, Leigh were just better on the day
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| Quote ="vastman"Or, Leigh were just better on the day
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Forgot to say that bit!
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| Quote ="1315trinity"I don’t think the loss of the match against Leigh is the fault of WP. For the same reason I don’t think all the losses under CC were his fault either.
Probably it’s a player thing, they’re not up for it, maybe some not fully fit or simply not good enough in quality. Maybe even a combination of all.
I’ve seen dozens of coaches come and go at Wakefield and only rarely does changing the coach make a long term difference. Most of them for one reason or another don’t last long.
Usually a ‘good’ coach is surrounded by good players he CAN coach!'"
The players did seem to take the game too lightly and perhaps that's because we'd won a few on the bounce and Leigh already had the wooden spoon in their trophy cabinet.
However, it's the coaches job to make sure that they ARE up for it and to find a way of not allowing complacency to creep in.
Having said that, in 30+ years of watching Trinity we've always had the knack of losing "easy" games and equally, dumbfounding the pundits by beating "loftier" opposition (as we did v Warrington).
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| So ive read today that the following jave applied and been interviewed
Paul anderson
Mcdermott
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WP
Dont know how true this is but if it is true really dontknow who i want between ward Mcdermott and poaching so im just gonna wait n see and support who ever gets it
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| Willie with Hendo as assistant for me.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"So ive read today that the following jave applied and been interviewed
Paul anderson
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Danny ward
WP
Dont know how true this is but if it is true really dontknow who i want between ward Mcdermott and poaching so im just gonna wait n see and support who ever gets it'"
I'd probably go Poching/Anderson/Henderson as all OK but no thanks to McDermot or Ward.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"So ive read today that the following jave applied and been interviewed
Paul anderson
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Danny ward
WP
Dont know how true this is but if it is true really dontknow who i want between ward Mcdermott and poaching so im just gonna wait n see and support who ever gets it'"
Where did you read it, Luppy?
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| Quote ="Luppylad"So ive read today that the following jave applied and been interviewed
Paul anderson
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WP
Dont know how true this is but if it is true really dontknow who i want between ward Mcdermott and poaching so im just gonna wait n see and support who ever gets it'"
And you heard that at which chippie?
That’s just a made up list of names mentioned on hear.
I seriously doubt that’s how it works except in the minds of posters on here.
FWIW I doubt we’ve interviewed anyone for the head coaches job, I suspect that went to WP a bit back but I may be wrong.
Of those names only Ward stands out as an asst coach as I suspect WP knows him well but like everyone else I’m guessing.
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| Quote ="vastman"Quote ="Luppylad"So ive read today that the following jave applied and been interviewed
Paul anderson
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WP
Dont know how true this is but if it is true really dontknow who i want between ward Mcdermott and poaching so im just gonna wait n see and support who ever gets it'"
And you heard that at which chippie?
That’s just a made up list of names mentioned on hear.
I seriously doubt that’s how it works except in the minds of posters on here.
FWIW I doubt we’ve interviewed anyone for the head coaches job, I suspect that went to WP a bit back but I may be wrong.
Of those names only Ward stands out as an asst coach as I suspect WP knows him well but like everyone else I’m guessing.'"
I will be honest, I read the same on the red, white and blue army.
The names don’t surprise me, though I’ve heard McDermott mentioned more than once.
We’ll just have to wait and see
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| according to an "insider" at another club, Mcdermott was interviewed by Trinity and was told that he hadn't got the job. I would be happy with Poching as head coach with Ward as his assistant .
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"I will be honest, I read the same on the red, white and blue army.
The names don’t surprise me, though I’ve heard McDermott mentioned more than once.
We’ll just have to wait and see'"
Ahh well if the poster had said it was on such an august and accurate site as that then I wouldn't have questioned it
All conjecture I'm afraid.
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| I find it odd that wakey fans wouldnt want Anderson. From that list he's the only one with a track record in SL of getting the best out of good to average players and doing so without the players, facilities, backroom staff and other resources that Mcdermott had.
He's well organised, no nonsense, has a winning mentality and very hardworking.
Anderson would be my choice.
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