This is where the captains challenge should come into play. This would remove a bit more pressure from the refs.

Please no the game doesnt need it it’s just a pointless gimmick imo, just accept refs get decisions wrong sometimes and dimwits like some of the pundits on TV don’t know their Head from their arris

Rested after one game is a bit much even for the pampered sportsmen of 2021!

Are you kidding? we are no chance

Didn't quite mean it like that, I suppose I meant rotated, so we could compare the two.

Beating Wigan - by no means a forgone conclusion.
I don’t care if ‘names’ are missing they don’t have weak players in their squad.
They have a production line of players busting a gut to impress!

I think this will be the big test of our pack and if we have got it right in the off season, Arona, Fifita, green have all lost a lot of weight I am guessing with the mobility in mind of the ruck speed, six again but with that can come loss of impact, loss of strength.

Wigans pack were single handledy steam rolled by Adam Sidlow who is nothing special at all, if Leigh had another decent prop to spell him with they would have won the game for me without a doubt, will be interesting to see how we go against them.

I agree
At best, it will encourage even more wrestling in the tackle and I'm not sure if the ref and his assistants can be expected to know that other tacklers are involved.
As for a legal steal if a player is in the act of scoring, this is just stupid.
What was wrong with being held up over the line ?

I love the level of understatement in the first line of your post.
The bookies are giving us 16 start on the handicap, which looks generous but, beating Wigan is a long, long way from a foregone conclusion.

Only difference I can see from last week is Hastings in, Field out, I don't think they are actually missing that many, Gildart and French?

Yes and it's not weak, jog on.

It’s most certainly not a “weak” Wigan squad.

They are missing 2 wingers in manfredi and Marshall. They are missing Gildart and French. Bibby is a good winger and seems to do a good job covering one.

Those are the only 3 injuries plus bevan that would likely be in the first team line up.

From 6-17 they’re more or less full strength. With Hardaker and bibby in the back line too it’s still decent.

In contrast wakey still missing 2 spine players in wood and Jowitt plus Battye. It’s more or less evens on the injury front.

I discount field because I don’t think with hardaker, French, Hastings, Tommy he would get much of a gig anyway.

I see this again as a pretty even affair on paper. Though I don’t think their pack is as daunting as the Leeds pack and certainly not as big.

I suspect that the Wigan coach may stack the edge defence against bill and Tom with Hardaker and Bibby.

If that's the case, let's hope the dirty tw*t keeps his tackles fair.

I don't think its weak .. but its certainly weaker than it could be.
It's looking like a centre combination of Willie Isa one side with either Bateman or Farrell on the other (plus young Hanley on the wing) which we should be able to exploit in terms of pace (don't think Bibby is that quick either) .
Their forward pack struggled to contain Sidlow last week which also gives some cause for optimism.
They will of course be tough and fit and have a top kicking game given the inclusion of Hastings.

So what team isn't, are we not weaker than we could be? At what point exactly does the second richest club in SL with the best youth system become 'weak', give it a rest, there is nothing weaker about Wigan just as there was nothing weaker about Leeds. Smoke and mirrors, is all this is, why you chose to peddle it I don't know.

Agree Vasty.
As a club, and as I see it, Wakefield aren't "expected" to beat the likes of Wigan, Saints et al due to the ability of said clubs' recruitment ability.
But we do manage it sometimes..... Which is nice.

If all our backs click we will run Wigan close and if we keep our heads win it.
Already talk of trying to put the shacks on TJ, let's see.

Just love the way Wigan play simple tough Rugby, the second half display against Leigh was a master class in handing the ball over on the oppositions try line then really getting off the defensive line with pace and tackling in numbers with aggression, keeping the opposition in their 20 and forcing a kick that at best crosses the half way line. They are patient and determined, its not complicated but very effective plus the whole team knows the plan and buys into it. It takes a set of equally determined aggressive players to carry the ball out of defense, remember how Hendo used to be always there to make these tough carries.

For once you're right, halfback play is intricate, backs are flamboyant, forwards should be a machine. Of course, forwards can be skilled but it's not a necessity. The ability to catch the ball at speed from deep, run it hard, KNOW WHEN THE TACKLE IS MADE rather than thrashing around like a hooked fish, get to your feet and play the ball without delay. All forwards must be able to do this, it's where Wigan and Leeds etc are strong and where our greatest weakness lays. My enthusiasm for Battye is that he seems to know this, as a player he's fairly ordinary in the skills department but in a class of his own when playing as a prop.

I'd be tempted to move Tanginoa into the front row to replace Green or Tangata, and Pitts in the second row.

That won't go down well, most spent all last season arguing with that. You may have a point though.

Agree with that plus Arundel has to play, him in with Twopoo on the wing , that gives us a better defensive look to me and plenty of physicality which is a basic need in my opinion.

An interesting if nonsensical view .. in my humble opinion.

Yeah, if you say so

Just play the same team as last week apart from Hampshire, The three quarters did not do a lot wrong so why change it .We all have picked up on mistakes the team made last week..Let's see if they have improved on any. Do not expect a win .As some post on here say ,we can not complete cash wise. Hope the shackles on T J is not to take him out of the game. Was it 2 year ago when we just had 14 players left at end of game ,against Wigan and a lot of our better players,been taken off injured not to return for months