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| Adam Walker is a quality player with a troubled past, wow what’s new!
RL players by there nature are inclined to get in trouble, not all but some and most notably props.
One thing is absolutely certain, Walker is yet to reach his peak and if well managed he may well do so at Trinity. These are the players who drive clubs forward.
As for being like, seriously. No team wants disharmony but they don’t have to be mates, that’s a total myth. I’ve worked for many outfits in my time and there has never been any correlation between how matey we were and how successful we were, quite the opposite in some cases.
You have a choice, watch a team of best mates play RL for pleasure or watch a team of pro’s win stuff. I seriously doubt you can have both.
Just look at the Wigan team of the early 90’s, do they socialise together? Som may but most not. Work is work and friends are friends and they are rarely the same thing.
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| The problem is that our first attempt to manage him did not go too well or last too long and Wakefield as a club has relied on team spirit, Wigan didn’t need this because of the quality of the squad they had assembled.
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| Quote ="FIL"Errmm...didn't Saints make public the fact that Luke Thompson had refused to take a pay cut, hence his quick departure to Australia and didn't Salford make public that Evalds had turned down a new contract and is off to Cas ??
[uI'm sure there's plenty more examples out there.[/u'"
Course there is, but they don't give him a chance to have a whinge at the CEO.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"The problem is that our first attempt to manage him did not go too well or last too long and Wakefield as a club has relied on team spirit, Wigan didn’t need this because of the quality of the squad they had assembled.'"
Utter myth. Trinity as a team is now packed with quality. Most notably the best winger of his generation, one of the best Centred in SL and some quality forwards. We don’t need more team spirit we need more desire and toughness.
You seem to have a tragic desire to pidgin hole is a a team of desperate tries as indeed we once were. Those days are gone and if anything we have been under performing.
I really don’t care if one player doesn’t care for another, it’s not a playgroup it’s a place of work.
I’d like to see some trophies before I die and if signing Hannibal Lectre achieved that then so be it. Nice rarely means winner in pro sport.
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| Quote ="vastman"Utter myth. Trinity as a team is now packed with quality. Most notably the best winger of his generation, one of the best Centred in SL and some quality forwards. We don’t need more team spirit we need more desire and toughness.
You seem to have a tragic desire to pidgin hole is a a team of desperate tries as indeed we once were. Those days are gone and if anything we have been under performing.
I really don’t care if one player doesn’t care for another, it’s not a playgroup it’s a place of work.
I’d like to see some trophies before I die and if signing Hannibal Lectre achieved that then so be it. Nice rarely means winner in pro sport.'"
Agree Vasty.
The classic example - though its footie - is Andy Cole & Teddy Sheringham - didn't like each other at all.... but on the pitch a great combo.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Agree Vasty.
The classic example - though its footie - is Andy Cole & Teddy Sheringham - didn't like each other at all.... but on the pitch a great combo.'"
Managed by a boss who didn’t tolerate egos getting in the way
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| Cole and Sheringham or even Edwards and Hanley not liking each other is not quite the same someone not wanting to play with another because of ethics and/or their use of drugs.
Not saying that is what is happening with Walker. I'm just saying it isn't a case of playing with Hannibal Lector to get trophies.
There should be a way of getting a team of professionals who respect each other rather than like each other.
Team building and team harmony is as important as skills development.
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| Pt why has my post been deleted? I want to know why ?
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| Another example of you frightened of vastman, not me
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| Adam walker was playing well for us before his ban he made a mistake but done his punishment and came back well for salford i will welcome him back.
On another note i dont get why people moan and criticize DC if it wasnt for hos efforts we wouldnt be where we are now we msybe even wouldnt exist anymore
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| Yep...don't think there'll be too many disagreeing with either of those sentiments
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Another example of you frightened of vastman, not me'"
Well you tried to get round the swear filter and you were abusing another poster.
Not necessary.
I didn't have time to send you a warning as well. I'll do that shortly.
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| The years yes years vastman has abused fans on here our pathetic,ill watch ever post from vastman and our response, friends?
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| Quote ="cosmicat"The years yes years vastman has abused fans on here our pathetic,ill watch ever post from vastman and our response, friends?'"
And he has been warned and banned appropriately and fairly. As you will be in the same circumstances.
But just to be clear just like in the thread discussion, I expect.you to be civil and adhere to the AUP. In this particular issue you reaction was over the top. Vastman's posts on this thread aren't a mod issue but your was.
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| Ok,let me clear im looking at ever vastman post ,ever post
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| If the League Express is to be believed he is at Wakefield on a trial basis and we are talking to Gigot for the balance of this season.
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| Quote ="vastman"You weren’t offended by what I posted because there was nothing init to offend anybody. I was just an opinion. You seem to struggle with the fact that I have tended to win more arguments than I’ve lost, you have an ego issue.'" ever post
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| Quote ="cosmicat"ever post'"
This is the only warning I'm giving to both of you.
Stick to the point of the thread and cut out the personal jibes.
You are welcome to hide each others posts if it's an issue.
If you leave it to me to decide I'm likely to give you a rest. I haven't got time to referee.
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| I was very disappointed when we lost Walker. In the handful of games, he played he looked like the missing link to me. A prop who was genuinely tough. Without Fifita which is likely to be more and more common, we have no real bite upfront. Although the days of the enforcer are gone you still need a player who inflicts pain (legally) on the opposition and make the hard yards, especially if the pack is being dominated and we do at times. I just felt he played with just enough niggle, others may not feel the same.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"No I have no trouble with the truth but why do you need to make everything public. I have not seen any other club adopting a similar stance so in that respect you are unique in your way of handling the players and the current situation or was it not the club who released the story of the strike threat if so I apologise.'"
I cant comment on what other clubs do. But the truth is the truth. I guess what you are saying is that you don't really want to know when a player is causing disruption behind the scenes because they are all so precious, but are quite happy to blame management when the club goes bust!
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| Quote ="Daddycool"I cant comment on what other clubs do. But the truth is the truth. I guess what you are saying is that you don't really want to know when a player is causing disruption behind the scenes because they are all so precious, but are quite happy to blame management when the club goes bust!'"
It's the same mentality of those who complain that the club is secretive and fans aren't kept informed or consulted (I always struggle with the notion of fans demanding to be consulted - invest a few £100k and put your house on the line, then you can have all the consultation you want).
If you tell 'em nowt, you are keeping them in the dark - if you are open and honest, you are an unprofessional gobe.
Can't win.
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| I actually have no problem with you, I may not like some of the things you do but this is a forum and I am just registering my view. I accept that the few left posting on the forum accept how you handle things which is fine.
I will give you one piece of advice which I suggest you heed try to avoid the rough and bunkers tomorrow because both are destructive to your score.
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| Quote ="dboy"It's the same mentality of those who complain that the club is secretive and fans aren't kept informed or consulted (I always struggle with the notion of fans demanding to be consulted - invest a few £100k and put your house on the line, then you can have all the consultation you want).
If you tell 'em nowt, you are keeping them in the dark - if you are open and honest, you are an unprofessional gobe.
Can't win.'"
Totally agree, it's like me buying a Ticket for Thorpe Park and then expecting to be included in all future planning and day to day operations of the venue. It's all part of the general sense of entitlement that people seem to have these days. Mind you seeing Politicians, and business cow-towing to the Titter mob and coppers going down on one knee doesn't dissuade them of this peculiar belief.
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| I shall say this only once because you have obviously just jumped on the bandwagon. I do not want to know about the behind the scene negotiations so your post at best is completely wide of the mark. I know I have no entitlement to know and I am quite happy with that much in the way the club will not discuss signings until completed.
I am not sure what the BLM movement and people’s reactions have to do with this topic.
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| Lol.
Who even mentioned you? Certainly not me.
Entitled much?
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