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| Quote ="Little willy"Who is signing these players is it Chester or MC because to me if that mindset doesn't change we're going to be in the same position as we've been in for the last 20 years, Signing 8 players who are just "team fillers" won't do it surely money we're paying for 3 or 4 them would have paid for a good Scrum half but the powers that be don't seem to think like that nobody seems to want to grab Trinity by the scruff of the neck & sort this out It looked like MC was doing it but yet again have fallen into the same trap as years gone by'"
Which of the new signings are you not chappy with?
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| OK Pop tart I didn't really say i was unhappy with the signings What it is, is to sign 8 players of let's say good standard & ignore the fact that we need some spark, We're just signing work horses which means we'll always be a 2/3rds to bottom side other teams buy something that will add to the team & make it better where not making it better where just signing the same people but with different names. I'm sure that 4 players wages could have gone to signing someone who would really make a difference. For instance the signing of Brough last season surely we could have got someone younger that has that spark & the Skill That he had. We just don't look at the bigger picture ( If That answers your question)
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| The Fifita problem was sorted with the signing of Green and the lad from Halifax .Think it's been panics buying close season .no thought about quality .
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| Quote ="Little willy"OK Pop tart I didn't really say i was unhappy with the signings What it is, is to sign 8 players of let's say good standard & ignore the fact that we need some spark, We're just signing work horses which means we'll always be a 2/3rds to bottom side other teams buy something that will add to the team & make it better where not making it better where just signing the same people but with different names. I'm sure that 4 players wages could have gone to signing someone who would really make a difference. For instance the signing of Brough last season surely we could have got someone younger that has that spark & the Skill That he had. We just don't look at the bigger picture ( If That answers your question)'"
Agree totally with this, get a top quality half back before anyone else who can win you games on his own. We sign squad fillers and work horses, other teams go out and get a marquee signing in the key position more often than not before anyone else.
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| Quote ="Emley Cat"Agree totally with this, get a top quality half back before anyone else who can win you games on his own. We sign squad fillers and work horses, other teams go out and get a marquee signing in the key position more often than not before anyone else.'"
We cant afford marquee players. We don't have a sugar daddy like those teams.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"We cant afford marquee players. We don't have a sugar daddy like those teams.'"
I know we can't, I didn't mean it in that context. Marquee as in a top quality half back.
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| It will be interesting to see how Huddersfield go with their half back signing.
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| If we'd Have not signed 4 players out the 8 we should have been able to sign a decent halfback But saying that Brough & Miller would never have been dropped so we the fans are in a no win situation
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| We do not not have to get marquee players ,We are short of quality in the key possion . The signings we have made are like some of the players we had at the club already .There is not one player we have signed who can change a game of is own back
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| Quote ="alegend"We do not not have to get marquee players ,We are short of quality in the key possion . The signings we have made are like some of the players we had at the club already .There is not one player we have signed who can change a game of is own back'"
I thought Hampshire was was the game changer.
Personally I saw enough from Westerman to think he is a significant step up in the forwards.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Which of the new signings are you not chappy with?'" none of them are an improvement on what we had
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| You can sign any half back you want and they will look ordinary playing our style of play it’s slow slow slow to the left to the right behind the man it’s boring
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| Where would we be now without Hampshire because as pointed out prior to the start of the season by allowing him to leave we would now be looking to probably play Woods at scrum half.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I thought Hampshire was was the game changer.
Personally I saw enough from Westerman to think he is a significant step up in the forwards.'"
So tanginoa ashurst and arona are below westerman, who in the right mind would sign someone for two years with that knee oh that would be us. We had the chance to build a good side no one we brought in will improve our team and some of the signings are ridiculous and a complete waste of cash
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Where would we be now without Hampshire because as pointed out prior to the start of the season by allowing him to leave we would now be looking to probably play Woods at scrum half.'" wherever you play Ryan you must create the space for him if you do hel go through or the backs will, he made a couple of mistakes the other night but also a couple of breaks and put tangata through, I guarantee If Chester changes the style of play then bill TJ lynn Atkins Ryan and miller will look much better,
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| The trouble is Mopsey. Chester won't change the style of play there is no plan It's get out there boys & do your best. It has been that way for a long time if he knew how to he would have done it a long time ago
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| Quote ="Little willy"The trouble is Mopsey. Chester won't change the style of play there is no plan It's get out there boys & do your best. It has been that way for a long time if he knew how to he would have done it a long time ago'" danny brough as been a good player but he’s not going to make breaks anymore his side last year brough 2 lynn 6 tanginoa 1 bjb 8 tries, we’ve good backs and some pace so use it. Brough is a dominant player but if we play him play a game that suits him, miller just looks on a different planet since he came. Do you think an opposing coach as to look at videos of us I don’t because we play the same way against every team every week.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"none of them are an improvement on what we had'"
Think you hit the nail on the head,i personally dont think the players are bad players i just dont get them and they where needed for example
What does pitts bring that crowther,batcholar, ashurst and kirmond (age apart)
J wood bring that randell didnt bring
Walker that jowitt or hampshire dont offer
Where are green and tangata bring much difference to england or hirst
Again not having a pop at anyone just feel we where desprate for somthing different and deffo a good winger and half back should of been a priority
But it is what it is and i continue to support the players and coaching set up
Has this is the club i love
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| Totally agree with this weve signed similar quality players to ones we lost would have been far better concentrating wages on a top scrum half weve been crying out for to get us round the park and tj on top of try charts
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| Quote ="Trinityknight"Think you hit the nail on the head,i personally dont think the players are bad players i just dont get them and they where needed for example
What does pitts bring that crowther,batcholar, ashurst and kirmond (age apart)
J wood bring that randell didnt bring
Walker that jowitt or hampshire dont offer
Where are green and tangata bring much difference to england or hirst
Again not having a pop at anyone just feel we where desprate for somthing different and deffo a good winger and half back should of been a priority
But it is what it is and i continue to support the players and coaching set up
Has this is the club i love'" no I never said they were bad players just the same, for me we needed a couple of player like Holmes and Milner at cas who are prepared and fit enough to play 80 and graft all day we’ve wasted salary’s on players we didn’t need, I think George king could be decent he needs to play more than being taken off after 20 minutes
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| Quote ="Trinityknight"
What does pitts bring that crowther,batcholar, ashurst and kirmond (age apart)..... =#FF0000Crowther is a different position, Batchelor has potential but can't do full season, Kirmond is getting old and can't do full season + Pitts was regarded as many as a great Captain and had a great season last year.
J wood bring that randell didnt bring............. - =#FF0000main thing is that Randall wanted to go home and was injured for most of the time he was here
Walker that jowitt or hampshire dont offer...... =#FF0000He was signed before Hampshire did a U turn so it should actually be what does Hampshire bring but for me he proved to be a better link in the line with London and organises the defense better
Where are green and tangata bring much difference to england or Hirst....=#BF0000. England was constantly injured as he was getting older and clearly needed to drop down as he has done. No one cried when Keegan left. He was ok but never really achieved his promise.
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Jordan crowther plays in second row as does pitts and when i say there the same type of players they all play in a simlar style/fashion batchelor is as goods as pitts again plays the same type of game same as kirmo and ashurst so for me there nothing different there no match winner.as for kirmo and batch been injury prone so why are they still at club so pitts in your view as been signed just to help with injuries.i do like pitts just felt we needed somthing different or bring in an other prop and left kelpi out i second row which may happen once some of forwards are back
Wood as with randell is not an put and out hooker there players that are expected to cover other postions too and there is no improvement there
Walker had also signed before hampshire had left too again not saying walker is a bad player in any way shape or form but he isnt better than what we had.
Yes england injury prone as is green thats why he got pushed out by hull and tangata or hirst ther no difference for me althoughj fair enough tangata may get better
Like i say knot knocking any of those just dont think its what we needed in my view and a scrum half should of been a priority l
But i. Sure cc knows what hes doing
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"no I never said they were bad players just the same, for me we needed a couple of player like Holmes and Milner at cas who are prepared and fit enough to play 80 and graft all day we’ve wasted salary’s on players we didn’t need, I think George king could be decent he needs to play more than being taken off after 20 minutes'"
Yes i was agreeing with you hence hitting nail on head
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| Quote ="PopTart"'" il tell you what Hampshire offers pace something walker isn’t blessed with look at his stats to walkers last year 14 try’s 14assists 20 clean breaks 88 busts and 2500 metres playing in 3 positions take a look at walkers stats as for organises they defence, every full back we have organises the defence but they still jam in on the wings or we play players who can’t get across.
No player we signed is better than we had just similar. Is tangata better than kopcheck is green better than fafita or kopcheck is westerman better than tangenoa or ashurst or arona. Walker is not in same league as Ryan or jowitt, Atkins? Josh wood never got a game at Salford does he make us better is naverette better than we’ve got, bathchelor is injured a lot and crowther gives everything but he’s injured is Pitts better than we’ve got.
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| Quote ="Trinityknight"Yes i was agreeing with you hence hitting nail on head'" yes I know
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