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| Quote ="alegend"Got to admit Corbyn no better, But think we are going back to the Dickens days , when the average person had to fend for themselves while the rich got richer.The national health, transport,police ext are at a critical stage .There is no mention of this been improved in the Torys manafesto and yet they can spend 54 billion pound on six war planes from America'"
I had to laugh at something I read this morning citing Corbyn being a middle-class north Londoner as a reason for him being unable to appeal to working-class communities. I'd like to know what appeal old Etonians, Jacob William Rees-Mogg, and Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson, had to working-class communities? Anyone?
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| None of them are marxist loons?
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| Quote ="alegend"Got to admit Corbyn no better, But think we are going back to the Dickens days , when the average person had to fend for themselves while the rich got richer.The national health, transport,police ext are at a critical stage .There is no mention of this been improved in the Torys manafesto and yet they can spend 54 billion pound on six war planes from America'"
I'm pretty sure NHS, Transport and Police did get a few mentions during the electioneering by all parties
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"I had to laugh at something I read this morning citing Corbyn being a middle-class north Londoner as a reason for him being unable to appeal to working-class communities. I'd like to know what appeal old Etonians, Jacob William Rees-Mogg, and Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson, had to working-class communities? Anyone?'"
Slightly more realistic policies and acceptance of the majority of the nations wish for Brexit to be finalised would be my guess.
TBH we need to get over this class thing, it's a red Herring IMO. There are plenty of people from ordinary backgrounds who could go to the top if they had the balls or could be bothered, Mrs Thatcher is a perfect example (minus the balls or maybe not ). It's just an excuse. These days most people are happy to make a killing and retire young whilst giving nothing back.
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| Doesnt matter who is in charge i know i have still to go to work monday morning and pay tax on my wage at end of the month
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Slightly more realistic policies and acceptance of the majority of the nations wish for Brexit to be finalised would be my guess.
TBH we need to get over this class thing, it's a red Herring IMO. There are plenty of people from ordinary backgrounds who could go to the top if they had the balls or could be bothered, Mrs Thatcher is a perfect example (minus the balls or maybe not
). It's just an excuse. These days most people are happy to make a killing and retire young whilst giving nothing back.'"
Retire young........ well unless you have to wait 6 years longer to get your pension like some ladies
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| Quote ="eric35"Retire young........ well unless you have to wait 6 years longer to get your pension like some ladies'"
True but in no way relevant to whether the Eton educated have an inherent advantage over those from other backgrounds in the world of politics. Its a completely different subject!
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| Quote ="alegend"Never bothersme who rules the country, but got to say having a lying,slimy,Pratt like him as made me fear for my grandkids'"
So who did you vote for ? Corbyns policies would have bankrupted the country over a ten year period. I agree that boris is the lesser of 2 weevils.
Sadly the Labour Party formed out of the trade union party to represent the ordinary working man, has virtually no working men or women in their ranks. They can’t identify with us because basically they started out life at private’s schools - gained there work experience straight from university into being an assistant to Tony Blair et sl, selected candidates by their creed race and sexuality and parachuted them in to northern safe constituencies promoting communist ideals whilst sending their kids to private schools.
Allowed to vote and be the deciding vote over brexit whilst being a convicted felon and liar
Diane Abbott , Milliband brothers , Cooper, onasanya McDonald I rest my case
Don’t even start me on Corbin
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| Quote ="eric35"Retire young........ well unless you have to wait 6 years longer to get your pension like some ladies'"
Your having a laugh - why should ladies retire earlier than men ? In this work of equality why should some one have preferential treatment as a result of their sex ? I know I ll identify as a woman and jack in working 5 years early
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"I had to laugh at something I read this morning citing Corbyn being a middle-class north Londoner as a reason for him being unable to appeal to working-class communities. I'd like to know what appeal old Etonians, Jacob William Rees-Mogg, and Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson, had to working-class communities? Anyone?'"
Haha, I think Rees Mogg would have workhouses back given half a chance! I fear for the future of my grandkids but we'll now see how things pan out under the real Boris and his cronies.
I honestly don't think many people have studied conservative policies, other than Brexit, but Labour did themselves no favours and the result was never in doubt.
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| Quote ="trinity374"Haha, I think Rees Mogg would have workhouses back given half a chance! I fear for the future of my grandkids but we'll now see how things pan out under the real Boris and his cronies.
I honestly don't think many people have studied conservative policies, other than Brexit, but Labour did themselves no favours and the result was never in doubt.'"
They used to say people in Wakefield were so stupid that if you painted a Donkey red they would vote for it, do you find that theory acceptable?
Why is it that when things don't go peoples way they claim the other lot didn't read the manifesto properly because one has to assume they are somehow daft. To call that attitude condescending is an understatement, yes mate in the last two never-ending years we've all totally not understood Brexit ect, I mean it's not like anybody's been talking about it is it
Take it on the chin, one side won one side lost and the majority gets what it wants, its called democracy. You can disagree all you like and hell you may be right as regards policy but don't you dare suggest people who voted Tory are stupid, the vast majority knew exactly what they were doing and did so with the best of intentions!
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Farage is a Tory, just in another name
, who allegedly claimed £12million in expenses over 10 years as a MEP and now he's off to be Trumps warm up act on the US campaign trail.
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So how long do you think it will take to find the Labour equivalent?
Perhaps Scargill living it large in Docklands using cash that 'nobody knows"exactly where he got it from cough, ALLEGEDLY
Taking the moral high ground in politics is a big mistake, it's built on quicksand.
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Well that nips that one in the bud
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"So how long do you think it will take to find the Labour equivalent?
Perhaps Scargill living it large in Docklands using cash that 'nobody knows"exactly where he got it from cough, ALLEGEDLY
Taking the moral high ground in politics is a big mistake, it's built on quicksand.'"
It’s actually quite sad everyone claiming the moral high ground whilst behaving despicably
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| Sorry fisherman’s wasn’t aimed at you but the political classes
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It’s actually quite sad everyone claiming the moral high ground whilst behaving despicably'"
The problem I have with all these so called socialists, lefties, do gooders what ever they call themselves is they make their mouths about fighting for this that and the other is when the sheite hits the fan and they’ve got to fight for it they brick it, that’s if any have got something to fight for. Example, prison officers sold their right to strike for pieces of silver. All these socialists would cack themselves if it meant ragging up for more than half an hour.
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| Look it is quite simple, what was at steak here was our precious dimocracy. In 2016 the nation was asked a question, do we want to leave or stay in the EU and there was nothing on the ballot paper about leaving with or without a deal. The people answered the question and this should have been implemented, that's democracy no iffs no butts endof.
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| Up to middle 1975 more than 77% of all political parties were working class .Now it's less than 7% you can see why they have lost touch with the working class
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| Quote ="Kettykat"have you had a walk around wakefield town centre, absolute disgrace how it’s been left to go to rack n ruin.Been a labour man all my mining days but I’ve struggle to see what they have brought to wakefield lately .Myself I think this is the backlash from Mary creigh going against the people of wakefield in the brexit vote in parliament.Thats twice they’ve been beat now who’s up for a third vote on brexit .'"
A bit puzzled by this. Who do you think decides how much money Wakefield has to spend in the five town centre's???
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| And if like me you walk around many other towns they're in just the same state. Shopping patterns are changing and there isn't enough passing trade to keep many shops alive. Even places like Stratford on Avon have these problems. A lot of the people who complain don't actually spend much in town so shops close. Then there's even less for the people who do actually shop in town. The very nature of town centres is changing. Rent and rate rises are often the killer blow. There's not much any council can do about it.
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| Fortunately i live in the Hemsworth constituency....just, which thankfully remains Labour......just! It really does sicken me to see all these posts slamming Jeremy Corbyn , not just as a politician, but as a person. He's a decent, clean living family man who has integrity and honesty for God's sake. Are these people saying that they think a lying, cheating philanderer is a more voteworthy choice? If so, all I can say is this nation is sadly in a very, very bad state.
As for standing by the results of a so-called democratic referendum, have the people forgotten that the majority of Brexit voters voted to leave based on a whole list of lies posted on the side of a double-decker bus. on this issue alone the results of the brexit vote should have bee declared null and void.
As for Johnson all I can say is that if you thought Thatcher was bad then watch out!!!
I was no fan of Mary Creagh, but Wakefield deserves better than this.
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| Hopefully, once Brexit has taken place and Boris's one trick pony is over all those that defected from red to blue will have regained their senses after the five year parliamentary period.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Fortunately i live in the Hemsworth constituency....just, which thankfully remains Labour......just! It really does sicken me to see all these posts slamming Jeremy Corbyn , not just as a politician, but as a person. He's a decent, clean living family man who has integrity and honesty for God's sake. Are these people saying that they think a lying, cheating philanderer is a more voteworthy choice? If so, all I can say is this nation is sadly in a very, very bad state.
As for standing by the results of a so-called democratic referendum, have the people forgotten that the majority of Brexit voters voted to leave based on a whole list of lies posted on the side of a double-decker bus. on this issue alone the results of the brexit vote should have bee declared null and void.
As for Johnson all I can say is that if you thought Thatcher was bad then watch out!!!
I was no fan of Mary Creagh, but Wakefield deserves better than this.'"
Corbyn may or not be a nice chap. But his student union style of politics would have bankrupted the country. I, and obviously millions of other people thought the same, thank god.
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