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| Quote ="The Avenger"Maybe I’m being pedantic, I don’t know.
We started the season with a squad we were happy with then Horo expressed an interest to leave so we replaced a backrower for a backrower.
The proposed transfer deals involving our relegation rivals are a bit different in that they are strengthening where they’re weak in order to avoid relegation.
My question was, are we doing the same, have we got the capacity to buy in a couple of players to strengthen where we are weak. That’s not the same as replacing like for like'"
OK I see what you mean.
I'd love to see fresh legs on the team but I assume we can't.
MCB is already over and above the planned budget and I think we'd have done it by now if we had the money.
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| If there like the quality of most of the signing we are bringing in next year do not buy anybody .If true most underwhelming
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| This is an overreaction, although I understand the panic.
The reality is that we have had one bad game. Had we won on Saturday, the slump would have been over and we'd be joint fifth, kept out of the play-off spots on points difference only. So, is our problem was just that the players didn't have the right focus after two days sightseeing in Perpignan?
My concern is that the players have had the soft focus too many times this season. London, twice. Too many awful first halves. Is there an issue with the players being too relaxed with their coach? Pauli Pauli is maybe an example of this. Goes to Salford and he plays well. Comes back to Wakey and it's back to fun-time Pauli, flapping at attackers.
What I do think, however, is that the players care too much about the club, and probably MC and Chester, to let it slide, because the second-half fightbacks this year show that they can do it when they put their minds to it. The absence of social media this week, compared to the usual, shows a refocus, and hopefully the players have resolved to do what Chester asks them to do. I know it's a coaches job to kick them up the jacksy, but Chester's success has been down to the opposite approach. I just think the players have let him down, because they thought life was okay, laughing and joking, play-offs always in sight. Well, they're not now.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"This is an overreaction, although I understand the panic.
The reality is that we have had one bad game. Had we won on Saturday, the slump would have been over and we'd be joint fifth, kept out of the play-off spots on points difference only. So, is our problem was just that the players didn't have the right focus after two days sightseeing in Perpignan?
My concern is that the players have had the soft focus too many times this season. London, twice. Too many awful first halves. Is there an issue with the players being too relaxed with their coach? Pauli Pauli is maybe an example of this. Goes to Salford and he plays well. Comes back to Wakey and it's back to fun-time Pauli, flapping at attackers.
What I do think, however, is that the players care too much about the club, and probably MC and Chester, to let it slide, because the second-half fightbacks this year show that they can do it when they put their minds to it. The absence of social media this week, compared to the usual, shows a refocus, and hopefully the players have resolved to do what Chester asks them to do. I know it's a coaches job to kick them up the jacksy, but Chester's success has been down to the opposite approach. I just think the players have let him down, because they thought life was okay, laughing and joking, play-offs always in sight. Well, they're not now.'"
Agree with that except the highlighted bit. I’d say we’ve only had one GOOD game in about two months, against a Huddersfield team on a worse run than us at the time. That is the most worrying thing.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"This is an overreaction, although I understand the panic.
The reality is that we have had one bad game. Had we won on Saturday, the slump would have been over and we'd be joint fifth, kept out of the play-off spots on points difference only. So, is our problem was just that the players didn't have the right focus after two days sightseeing in Perpignan?
My concern is that the players have had the soft focus too many times this season. London, twice. Too many awful first halves. Is there an issue with the players being too relaxed with their coach? Pauli Pauli is maybe an example of this. Goes to Salford and he plays well. Comes back to Wakey and it's back to fun-time Pauli, flapping at attackers.
What I do think, however, is that the players care too much about the club, and probably MC and Chester, to let it slide, because the second-half fightbacks this year show that they can do it when they put their minds to it. The absence of social media this week, compared to the usual, shows a refocus, and hopefully the players have resolved to do what Chester asks them to do. I know it's a coaches job to kick them up the jacksy, but Chester's success has been down to the opposite approach. I just think the players have let him down, because they thought life was okay, laughing and joking, play-offs always in sight. Well, they're not now.'"
I disagree, we have won 2 of the last 9 league games with the only team beaten being Huddersfield. Deeper analysis shows that the performances are mixed between average and very poor.
The next 3 games don’t offer much of a chance of picking up league points and if the current form continues our points difference will suffer greatly.
Confidence is a huge asset while lack of it will destroy the best teams. If we go 2 from 12 which is likely and take a couple of heavy scores against us then confidence will be shot. That doesn’t leave us in a very good place for the run in to the seasons end.
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| I meant "one game" in the sense that the world would have felt a better place had we won on Saturday, because of where we would have been, and it is possible to see the Catalan game in isolation, due to the sightseeing element. "One game", in the sense that we would have seen everything differently.
Now, it's a bit more backs-to-the-wall, and we'll see what the players are made of, and the second-half fightbacks this year have shown some of this. The disappointments have been the rather unfocused approaches to the first halves. We switch off too often. Look at London in the first game. Early lead, job done, switch off. Catalan? Lovely sunshine. Sightseeing tours. Switch off.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I disagree, we have won 2 of the last 9 league games with the only team beaten being Huddersfield. Deeper analysis shows that the performances are mixed between average and very poor.
The next 3 games don’t offer much of a chance of picking up league points and if the current form continues our points difference will suffer greatly.
Confidence is a huge asset while lack of it will destroy the best teams. If we go 2 from 12 which is likely and take a couple of heavy scores against us then confidence will be shot. That doesn’t leave us in a very good place for the run in to the seasons end.'"
My thoughts exactly.
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| Lets be honest if we hadn't had beaten huddersfield 3 times we would be bottom
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| either way were going to find out on friday what the squads intentions are whether they are going to fail or show some nads
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Lets be honest if we hadn't had beaten huddersfield 3 times we would be bottom'"
Pointless discussing IF's though isn't it?
IF we'd beaten London twice then we'd be sitting pretty in the top 5
We've got more than enough quality to win enough of the remaining games to be free from relegation worries, just need the players to show it!!
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Lets be honest if we hadn't had beaten huddersfield 3 times we would be bottom'"
And if London hadn't beaten us twice they'd be adrift. Was a stupid statement during commentary on Saturday and repeating it now doesn't make it any less so.
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| It's ringing...
Get real.time to go Chester
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| Sorry to say it and I'm not one for knee jerk reactions but he's right. Any other team In the league tonight would have beaten that cas team, they were so poor it was unreal and yet they thrash us. I'm fed up of paying money to watch a group of blokes that canr be bothered and look like they have never seen a coach in there life. Chester has to go. We are absolutely clueless in every department, even the seasoned pros all of a sudden look like amateurs... Chester needs to go for God sake JD has come out and said he would love to have a head coached role in SL we should move heaven and earth to get him over here right now, maybe just maybe he might save us from the drop
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| If it wasnt for egodos stupid errors we wouldn't have scored a point tonight. Chester has clung on to what Kear built for a season and half but it's time to get real now
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| Think something is seriously wrong at the moment.
We have enough bodies in the squad now, and shouldn't be blaming injuries too much, other teams have thenm too.
Not one for bagging coaches, as they dont knock on and concede penalties, but I think sooner or later something has to give.
Maybe some of the players need the talk they had in 2015,do they or dont they want to play for the club, but like someone once said easier to move one on than several
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| Just watched Leeds v HKR and to say they are both below us in the table they both are playing far more expansive open rugby which is a pleasure to watch.Tony smith has HKR playing the type of rugby we can only dream about at this moment in time ,and honestly can’t see it changing anytime soon.
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| If Jason was every to be asked to come and coach Wakefield he would have to make sure he had an amour plated coat to protect him from the knives in the back
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| There's no back stabbing of Chester. He's made bad player recruitment choices and team selection and tactics. Now the fans are fed up. He'd have gone at any other club in SL.
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| JD has built up a decent reputation as a coach. If I were in his shoes I would be very wary of accepting a role with us. He will be inheriting a squad that is has many players nearly at their sell by date and some already there. Next years recruitment is also looking old and suspect in many cases. Plus he will have a backroom staff that needs a major overall.
JD has plenty of time and is already in a decent position why should he give that all up and take the massive risk with our crock of sheete
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"JD has built up a decent reputation as a coach. If I were in his shoes I would be very wary of accepting a role with us. He will be inheriting a squad that is has many players nearly at their sell by date and some already there. Next years recruitment is also looking old and suspect in many cases. Plus he will have a backroom staff that needs a major overall.
JD has plenty of time and is already in a decent position why should he give that all up and take the massive risk with our crock of sheete'"
This. If i was him i wouldn’t touch us with a barge pole. Keep his apprenticeship with Wayne Bennett at Souths for the next 18 months then be in line to take over there when Bennett retires.
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| he would be get paid more now at souths than we can offer...
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| Heard Saints have made enquiries...
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| Quote ="charlie"Heard Saints have made enquiries...'"
Its a more likely destination to be honest
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| “Jason Demetriou is unlikely to take an offer to become the St Helens coach, preferring to stay at South Sydney.” Lass on Sky.
He would have to be sentimental to consider Trinity
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| It's easy to pin the blame for our demise on CC.
OK, he puzzles me with persisting with the Miller/Brough partnership and his obvious dislike of Jowitt, but there is no coach in the world would have done any better generally with the player situation we have had this season.
Also, as far as the statement 'many players past their sell by date' , these are the same players that were playing some superb rugby and guided us to the top 3, before the worst injury situation I can remember hitting the club.
Snowie is right, any new coach would need a stab vest on within weeks.
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