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| Its a pity that when we are asked to maintain confidences that information is leaked. As it now appears to be in the the public domain I can confirm that we have been advised that Rodney Walker has indeed set up a new Trust, although it does not appear to have been registered with Companies house yet, and that Yorkcourt have said that they will only deal with Rodney Walker's Trust and not the Trust that was specifically established by Wakefield MDC to be the facilitator in the delivery of the Community Stadium for the people of Wakefield. I'll leave you to come to your own conclusions as to why Rodney Walker resigned from the Trust and set up his own.
We are clearly furious about these events and we have a further meeting with the Council next week following which I expect there to be a statement made.
Please don't think that we are doing nothing at the moment because nothing could be further from the truth.
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| SC , Does the council ( Box ) have it in their gift to dictate which Trust should be the recipient of any new stadium.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"The new council executive will do exactly as Box says are lose the £ 185,000 pa position. If she questions Box she will be sacked just like Foster was at the very start of this process, he disagreed with Box, got sacked, received a £ 500,000 pay out and got a new job as Chief Executive at another council. Box is very generous with local tax payers money when it suits him.
Again not making a political point, the problem is just Box. We need to keep away from politics on this, we will just wind each other up otherwise.'"
That may end up being the case and if it is then it's more power to our elbow but remember we have been to the media well more than once recently, including an ill timed 'nothing has happened yet' rant in the Star just a couple of weeks after the council meeting where promises were made. That made zero difference and if we keep going back too often saying the same thing the press won't have the intrest as it won't have the same impact and why give the council any wriggle room by way of an excuse. Also bear in mind given recent events in this country both the authorites and the media are putting their efforts into other rather more pressing matters than a sports stadium for a few people in West Yorkshire. Timing is key to any 'uprising' and doing it now will not have the impact it should, we might only have one shot left at that route and we need to get it right.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"SC , Does the council ( Box ) have it in their gift to dictate which Trust should be the recipient of any new stadium.'"
I'd suggest that if Yorkcourt don't like the name on the 'new' S106 agreement then they don't have to sign it, remember they are not obliged by law to agree to a new one. So the current S106 would remain in place which we all know isn't fit for purpose and can be applied to be removed/altered after 5 years, which in this case would be December from memory.
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| Comrade Box also mentions if anyone wants to know why developer only wants to work with new Trust they need to ask the developer.
Does anyone know Mackie's email address?
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| All this business with setting up another trust and meetings leading to nowhere or alleged people not attending. What a load of crap, it's like a soap opera. Is it that hard to focus on the actual issue at hand. I despair, I really do.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"SC , Does the council ( Box ) have it in their gift to dictate which Trust should be the recipient of any new stadium.'"
That sounds like one for our Lawyers.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"All this business with setting up another trust and meetings leading to nowhere or alleged people not attending. What a load of crap, it's like a soap opera. Is it that hard to focus on the actual issue at hand. I despair, I really do.'"
Yes, we are a bit peed off as well.
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| Around 8 years ago, I was a guest of Mrs Kear at a game (the one where Diversity played and Danny Brough was sent off for angrily abusing a touch judge, outraged at a decision when we were 50 nil up). In the pre-game buffet, Rodders was there and I was sitting opposite him as he shovelled in his vol au vents, justifying everything with "I'm getting you a stadium". The word "I" was the one used.
Here we are, years on, and I'll use the word "you". You haven't got us a stadium. Leave me some sausage rolls. You haven't earned them.
I'm guessing the correspondence went along the lines of, "Dear Rodney. We've almost been forced into spending millions of pounds we don't want to spend. We could do with some more years of inactivity. Would you mind setting up another Trust? Hot buffet? Of course. Cheers."
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| Does this Mr Vause work for the council,or does he support the club?
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| Is it possible to set up a public enquiry?
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I'm guessing the correspondence went along the lines of, "Dear Rodney. We've almost been forced into spending millions of pounds we don't want to spend. We could do with some more years of inactivity. Would you mind setting up another Trust? Hot buffet? Of course. Cheers."
A complete joke.'"
Precisely - yet another example, as if we needed one, of how the networks of power in this country protect each other, to the detriment of the little people. Small scale this may be - but it still stinks of corruption.
I would be interested to know if Rodney has any financial stake in any of the entities involved in this proposed new arrangement, or indeed in YCP, or any of its shell or subsidiary companies...
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| let’s not bite the hand that feeds us too soon, clearly Mr Box has surprised the club, trust, and now what looks like Walker and Yorkcourt by his email. Which looks as if he as breeched confidentiality?
Clearly the trust were awaiting next week’s meetings and clarifications before going to press reading these comments?
If a new trust is to be set up and can work to deliver a stadium surly that’s a good thing and would that have happened if they (Walker and Yorkcourt) were not convinced it could be delivered?
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| Quote ="trintalk"Does this Mr Vause work for the council,or does he support the club?'"
Forget it. It's water well under the bridge and has nothing to do with the stadium. Sorry, #stadium.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"I am, dementia tax scrapped, fox hunting scrapped, Grammar Schools, Winter fuel cuts, meals for kid being cut all scrapped.
On the stadium however, we didnt do council elections so not really relevant. What happened to the meeting last week?'"
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| All along this a planning matter, it's upto the local planning department to enforce the S106 . Does the leader of the council check on all planning decisions or just this one.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I would be interested to know if Rodney has any financial stake in any of the entities involved in this proposed new arrangement, or indeed in YCP, or any of its shell or subsidiary companies...'"
If any financial incentive delivers it, I don't care. Just deliver it.
The fact that the chairman of the main tenant is tweeting about inaction, however, suggests that those on the club side are not optimistic about any new arrangement.
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| Quote ="vastman"sleepy.gif There's one born every minute'"
There certainly is (but TrinityIHC isn't one of them).
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| I don't think anyone who attended that council meeting a few months ago was actually taken in by the "I'm your mate" tactics of Box with his crappy jokes and ineffective speeches.
Just prior to that meeting the protest ball was well and truly rolling and that meeting was just to take the heat off Box and his cronies for another few weeks. I think it is time for a noisy picket outside Wakefield town hall and the Press brought back on board.
As for Rodders I will again refer to what he said at the inquest five years ago: " I DELIVERED THE NEW WEMBLEY STADIUM". Well, it looks like you may well have met your match when it comes to delivering a small community stadium on the outskirts of a small Yorkshire city, Rodders old chap!!!!
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| Quote ="Kevs Head"There certainly is (but TrinityIHC isn't one of them).'"
I'm afraid he is and I fear you may be to - funny how convinced they are right - bet you assume I'm a Tory as well.
Just a hint - conservative values, or conservative with a small c as it's known don't make you a Tory.
Funny also that it's always people like TrinityIHC who bring politics into these debates and then cry foul when not everybody agrees with them.
Political freedom or any other kind isn't just about having a platform for your opinions it's about all people having a chance.
The tories are the most popular party by far, they get millions of votes - are they all as TrinityIHC? No, only an arrogant stupid idiot would think that. so what are you? Ditto Labour voters, it works both ways. I don't believe Corbyn but I don't think they are all idiots, they have their reasons.
However if TrinityIHC insists on bringing his politics into every debate - especially this one which is nothing to do with Labour or Conservative but corruption. Ironic really seeing as Box the main culprit is actually Labour which makes an even bigger mockery of it.
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| Quote ="vastman"I'm afraid he is and I fear you may be to - funny how convinced they are right - bet you assume I'm a Tory as well.
Just a hint - conservative values, or conservative with a small c as it's known don't make you a Tory.
Funny also that it's always people like TrinityIHC who bring politics into these debates and then cry foul when not everybody agrees with them.
Political freedom or any other kind isn't just about having a platform for your opinions it's about all people having a chance.
The tories are the most popular party by far, they get millions of votes - are they all as TrinityIHC? No, only an arrogant stupid idiot would think that. so what are you? Ditto Labour voters, it works both ways. I don't believe Corbyn but I don't think they are all idiots, they have their reasons.
However if TrinityIHC insists on bringing his politics into every debate - especially this one which is nothing to do with Labour or Conservative but corruption. Ironic really seeing as Box the main culprit is actually Labour which makes an even bigger mockery of it.'" was it not a response to willzay that brought about the reply, in effect I nearly bit too but you could go with your own political campaign on here,
to stress that the last voting had to be made a certain way to gain us a stadium is one that a fear won't happen which ever party you chose, it all boils down to money and who pays for it
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| Between Mackie, Box and Walker they've well and truly squirmed out of a situation, Houdini would be proud. The fact Mackie will only deal with the faux trust is testament to the corruption that's is going on here.
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| Quote ="vastman"I'm afraid he is and I fear you may be to - funny how convinced they are right - bet you assume I'm a Tory as well.
Just a hint - conservative values, or conservative with a small c as it's known don't make you a Tory.
Funny also that it's always people like TrinityIHC who bring politics into these debates and then cry foul when not everybody agrees with them.
Political freedom or any other kind isn't just about having a platform for your opinions it's about all people having a chance.
The tories are the most popular party by far, they get millions of votes - are they all as TrinityIHC? No, only an arrogant stupid idiot would think that. so what are you? Ditto Labour voters, it works both ways. I don't believe Corbyn but I don't think they are all idiots, they have their reasons.
However if TrinityIHC insists on bringing his politics into every debate - especially this one which is nothing to do with Labour or Conservative but corruption. Ironic really seeing as Box the main culprit is actually Labour which makes an even bigger mockery of it.'"
Dunno where you get that from - just highlighting that the GE wouldn't have altered the fate of our stadium one iota, in response to a sarky "well done labour voters" comment. Fair to point that out.
Just hope something gets sorted with the stadium asap tbh. Why would Box publicy have come out and announce further action and not deliver any? I'm sure SWAG will update when there's news.
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| See what Sir Rodney Walker says surely they'll be a statement if all this is true. Don't care who's involved in the trust aslong as we get the stadium. He may yet deliver the stadium he promised 8 years ago.
In Sir Rodney we trust
Up the Trin
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