I think we were around 30 nil down before Crowther came on to pitch.

How the hell can you point the finger at the kid for that !!!!

Cos he didn't create 5 tries to draw us level.

Well at least we scored our only try while he was out there. May be we should have started the game with him, could have been a different result.

Trinity have been picking up injuries for the last few weeks at the same time as a fixture pile up with little rest between games. Small squad as it is so all hands on deck.

If Walker is a better player than Crowther because we won more games with Walker in the team (which I'm fairly sure isn't true anyway) then applying leedscat's extremely weird logic means that Crowther is therefore better than pretty much all the other players who played today as we lost by less points in his time on the field and therefore by this logic he should be MOM instead of singled out for criticism.

Kirmond & Allgood were major doubts all week.

One joker at tonights game continually picked on negatives from Keegan Hirst. There were 16 other players out there tonight. Can't just blame 1 player.

Were still in contention until yesterday when they failed their 'fitness tests'.
Apparently the 17 tonight were the last men standing.

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Abusive anguage like that won't be tolerated Leeds cat. No need for it. Consider this your warning.

Should be enough for slacko to soak in and understand

It might have been how he was wearing his subs coat for 50mins that did it

I'm not sure whether Crowther will ultimately make it but he doesn't miss tackles and is still developing so he's a good one to keep for now.
Walker I quite liked but was probably 6 prop and even lower if you include Arona.
Granted we have an injury crisis but you can't keep everyone and I should think he wanted first team time. He'll go great at Rochdale.

And as said plenty of times tonight was nothing to do with Crowther.

I'd give Crowther a run at loose forward, and bench Sio. There were some poor performances tonight but I accept we're in a spot with injuries, not sure why some feel the need for the blame game.

Not too long ago we wouldn't have had Crowther, or any other decent youngsters, to back up our first team - they'd have been picked off by the 'big' teams. Slagging them off when they put their hands up, and their bodies on the line, to play for the first team is bang out of order. Young Crowther was gutted at the end - he didn't need to be, he'd tried his best against a team of seasoned pro's.

Agree with op letting go a forward at this point when already down on troops before 3 dropping out was a weird one but Jordan not to blame as others played worse last night. I would have written the game off and drafted a few more kids in if we had more time.

I wouldn't even bench Sio - he's been poor all season and if he were out of contract I wouldn't need re-sign him.

Whatever team we put out you expect the fullback to show some balls and get under at least a few high balls.
You also don't expect someone to perform a ball steal on the 5th tackle, when the player is already wrapped up, feeding the loose ball straight into an opposition players hands.
That was a pathetic show by the majority of players who took the field for that 1st 20 minutes. The pre match shot of Chester on the big screen looked like he too have given up already.

Hirst dropped the ball on his 1st three carries, but he was just one of many who let us down.

We just got dominated in the middle from minute 1, they were marching us down the field with ease and we were struggling to make 30 meters on 5 carries.

To be fair though this was the first time this season I thought our pack looked "small" compared to the opposistion and for me that was purely down to the players we had out.

I am disappointed but only in the result as I had hoped we could get to the semis based on our recent wins against Salford. I thought the players we had on the field gave their all and were exhausted and while the overall performance was poor I can understand why given who was missing and the changes which had to be made and Salford were on fire.
Lets back behind the lads as we have Hull on a shorter turnaround than us so hopefully tired bodies can recover.

The whole team from 1-17 was not good enough last night, they looked lost and lacked leadership. Somebody needed to step up and grab the game by the scruff of the neck but no one did.

That being said, I think Grix has been awful in the last two games, he was outstanding the first half of the season but since being rested for the Salford game he has struggled. I'd drop him and bring back Jowitt.

Williams has not lived up to his reputation, unfortunately we're short in the halves so can't turn to anyone else until Miller is back.

Crowther, I actually think Crowther has regressed, for me he's behind Annakin and Batchelor in the pecking order, not 100% convinced he'll make it, he has potential but he needs to start showing it more in matches.

We're badly missing Arona, Fifita and Miller

Big up to Salford they were up for the game, line speed very quick almost too quick, but you play to the referees strengths and weaknesses

Grix was the only player who made any breaks against Leeds! I know he threw a wild pass that may have cost us the game against Leeds but we didn't deserve to win that one.
Nobody knows if Jordan Crowther will MAKE it because he isn't being played on a regular basis. In other words he hasn't been given a real chance so I wouldn't write him off at this stage.
Oh for a Gale, Brough or someone of that calibre - if we had one like that we really would be challenging seriously!

I've no doubt it is difficult for Crowther especially when you consider the amount of back row players we have, but that makes it all the more important for him to take his chances when he gets them, make himself indispensable to the team.
I fully agree we didn't deserve to win against Leeds, and I don't hold the wild pass against him, to be honest I think he thought MCB was outside Arundel. It's his issues with the high ball that appear to have resurfaced and worry me immensely, he was suspect against Leeds, and Dobson gave him a torrid time last night. Jowitt played well against Salford away, I'd bring him back for the next match.

100 percent agree with this post, at the end of the day didn't really expect a win and the late changes - all good bjb and tupou plus kirmond dropping out of squad. Didn't help. Am pretty sure walker was a good two weeks away from playing ideally.

We looked knackered and with the odd exception nobody really performed (thought hubby and MCB tried hard) - ultimately we were out muscled and out enthused - 4 games in 2 weeks has just been too much.

Williams has actually been a disappointment all season and has not had one game where he looks like a top class player, last night behind a beaten pack is understandandable - but what about all the games when our forwards have been on top. Grix has been very good but we were unbelievably bad under the high ball yesterday,

Lets just hope we start to get some bodies back over next couple weeks or it could be a pretty disappointing end to regular season

Salford did a job on us. They learned from Leeds in my honourable opinion.
We are not as good against a rushing defense.
We couldn't get the ball wider quick enough.

As said the pack tried hard but we're out gunned. Not just in size but enthusiasm for the cause.

Grix tried hard but no opportunities. He's still the one guy that can make the difference.