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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Just as a further thought on this but looking at the wider RL picture than just ourselves.
If this idea is viable, could this be a way forward for other clubs that have recently had ground issues, such as Sheffield and York.'"
Quite so, it's a full stadium at around 1/4 the cost of a conventional construction. They do still cost something though and it would rely on the goodwill of the council to gift some land (or lease it for peanuts)
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Sorry but he can and he will. The stadium land at Newmarket is not owned and never has been owned by the developer, it belongs to a local farmer. As far as we know the developer has an option on it but no one is party to the details. However both will want far more than we can afford.
For Vastys plan to happen we need cheap land and the only way I can see to get that is for the council to let us have use of a couple of sports fields somewhere.
Just as an aside ,anyone know about the playing field just off Horbury Road,Lupst, that would be ideal'"
Is that getting houses put on it? I know somewhere around there is. That would be a great spot though as it's next to (and near other) council run sports facilities.
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| Quote ="bentleberry"[/uIndeed, my apologies, they do only have 4 (+ some other fields and the all-weather hockey pitch), but they wouldn't be losing any sports pitches by putting this on, they would gain a stadium around one of their pitches which they could use for their own events throughout the year. The school also isn't averse to selling off land to gain sporting facilities. I'm not saying it's ideal, but it'd certainly be an avenue worth exploring with either of the private schools in the city. It's mutually beneficial for the club and school so funding it may be easier'"
They only sold land to extend what they had in front of the school in the late 80's. They sold 2 rugby fields and an athletics track where Silcoates drive and Silcoates Avenue is and around the same time they sold the land they had behind Toll Bar Lane , which is now called the Mount. There's absolutely no chance though Silcoates would have a Wakefield Trinity Stadum on their Land, wouldn't get past the Board of Governors.
Anyway interesting read Vasty , some good ideas in there.
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| You need the players lounge the correct size - I believe York do not have that at the soccer stadium
[url=http://media.therfl.co.uk/docs/FACILITYSTANDARDS2016%20final%20PDF.pdfHere's What Is Required[/url
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| Can this really happen ? If so let's get ball rolling !
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Can this really happen ? If so let's get ball rolling !'"
It's just an idea - I have no idea tbh but if there was the will then yes.
It is certainly an easy option that would very much get the council off the hook - assuming they think they are on a hook.
Lets see what happens but it won't be decided by me or you sadly.
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| I forgot to mention that there are numerous stadiums around the UK operating this model to various degrees though I know of none that are 100% modular.
The one closest to us in scale is Bath RUFC (Recreation Ground) who's stadia is very temporary in nature though I think recently some more permanent stricture have been added.
Also I need to add that although it's a cheaper option that doesn't mean it should be done on the cheap. We are not talking a load of old portacabins we are talking bespoke on the major items.
You can justify £25 to sit in a modular stand but you can't justify £25 in this day an age for an obstructed view so any roofs must be the more expensive cantilever option - it's that kind of thing that would be the difference between a dump fit for stock car racing and a facility fit for a major sport in the 21st century.
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| You've excelled yourself on this one Vasty. Great idea!!
Could our friends TRB and Sandal Cat progress this idea officially?
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| Do pop venues have temporary seating ie Sheffield areana,leeds fda? Tbf if it's what I'm thinking off they top quality stands/ stadium
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| That surprised me that Bath have so much uncovered.
But the difference with their option is like you said, they have permanent parts. This for me shows why doing this at Belle Vue is the preferred option.
Needs to be a recognised Base.
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| Fair point pop tart but the rent is a big issue unless there is an agreement with landlord
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| Would the old Newton Bar site be any use as a possible location? It's owned by the council and is brownfield so I'd have thought planning would be easier, it's got good motorway links too and plenty of space for parking
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| Or even the fields that are close to Pinderfields and the road that leads from there to Eastmoor Road.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Or even the fields that are close to Pinderfields and the road that leads from there to Eastmoor Road.'"
Owned by QEGS, if you mean the Old Stanley Royd fields. They bought it and fenced the 2 playing fields all off. Wouldn't get planning imo anyway because of the housing complex on the old Hospital and the surrounding area.
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| We don't need temporary we need permanent, if we have to do it on the cheap I'd rather reclaim stands like Fev did,plenty of them knocking about. As for other sites in Wakefield perfect for a stadium there's loads it who's paying for it that's the problem.
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| Yes I think your right now. Couldnt think of the name of the road.
It has now come to me. North Avenue.
Not been at that part of Wakey for quite a while.
Although there are a lot of industrial units and car showrooms near me by the Swan and Cygnet. There still does appear to be quite a few open spaces
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Yes I think your right now. Couldnt think of the name of the road.
It has now come to me. North Avenue.
Not been at that part of Wakey for quite a while.
Although there are a lot of industrial units and car showrooms near me by the Swan and Cygnet. There still does appear to be quite a few open spaces'"
LOL I was thinking of the ones along Eastmoor Road, but the funny thing is the ones up North Avenue were bought by QEGS as well some time ago. They put a Rugby Field and a couple of Football fields on it. They bought it around the time they sold the land near the big roundabout at the bottom of Leeds Road/Bar Lane where some new houses were built.
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| While the idea I feel is quite good and the stadium issues could be resolved for a fraction of the price, I do think M62 is bang on.
We need permanent but need the capital and support for the council.
MC has said previously that he would love some other business man come on board to assist.
If only this person came forward.
I really would be happy for the two items in the second paragraph to bear fruit and BV to have a full re vamp.
I would happily move away for 2 seasons to enable this to happen.
For me 2 buildings stand in our way at BV the Kitchen Showroom and the building at the side that look a bit like flats. If these were handed to the ground owners there is quite a decent land area to work with.
I also said a few weeks ago that there is a building behind the North Stand that isnt used for much, if I recall for hoarding junk. If this space was cleared could be utilised too.5
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| Thanks Shifty, really should take more notice.
Yes seen the new houses.
My parents and in laws both live in Outwood and sometimes have gone that way from Thornes.
Think in the 4 years I spent away from the Merrie City quite a lot of things changed
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"While the idea I feel is quite good and the stadium issues could be resolved for a fraction of the price, I do think M62 is bang on.
We need permanent but need the capital and support for the council.
MC has said previously that he would love some other business man come on board to assist.
If only this person came forward.
I really would be happy for the two items in the second paragraph to bear fruit and BV to have a full re vamp.
I would happily move away for 2 seasons to enable this to happen.
For me 2 buildings stand in our way at BV the Kitchen Showroom and the building at the side that look a bit like flats. If these were handed to the ground owners there is quite a decent land area to work with.
[uI also said a few weeks ago that there is a building behind the North Stand that isnt used for much, if I recall for hoarding junk. If this space was cleared could be utilised too[/u.5'"
Anyone know what this was used for? Tbh I've also wondered why we have never made better use of it over the years.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Anyone know what this was used for? Tbh I've also wondered why we have never made better use of it over the years.'"
It used to be used as changing rooms for the academy games when they uses to play pre match but don't know if it's used now.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Anyone know what this was used for? Tbh I've also wondered why we have never made better use of it over the years.'"
Is this in the north west corner?
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"It used to be used as changing rooms for the academy games when they uses to play pre match but don't know if it's used now.'"
Cheers.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Is this in the north west corner?'"
Yes.
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| When I was employed by the club 2011-13 it wss used ad storage, mainly furniture etc, I believe from players houses etc.
Remember having to climb over everything to get to the electricity meters to take my monthly readings.
Hard to say the exact size given all the stuff that was in there.
Just needs a couple of hours, skip, a lick of paint and all of sudden, some useful area is useful again.
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